• @burliman@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I wonder if they know the dollar figure in sales that ads, for all their expense, have gained out of me. I’d say it’s near zero. You may say I am subconsciously influenced and even if I don’t click the ad, I may buy the product at some other date due to recognition. Maybe. But that individual ad impression that someone paid for that I did not click (or blocked) does not know that. And it’s quite likely they don’t care, because ever missed click is still getting the word out so to speak.

    But what they should care about is the absolute dislike I have towards aggressive advertising. And I am not alone. When I face an unskippable or full page or pop up ad, I don’t subconsciously want that product then or later. I consciously hate the product just a little more and more with each impression.

    And now that it’s an arms race, the lines are being drawn, the hatred being cultivated, and the whole effort has lost its entire point: To make me friendly toward the product and to buy it. And I feel like sites like YouTube essentially don’t give a shit. They have the advertisers convinced through some great effort that ads are effective and worth it. All while doing everything that they can to keep us corralled and our eyes pried open to view them.

    • InF
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      11 year ago

      lighttube maintainer here! thanks for your support!

      • @Zerush@lemmy.ml
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        21 year ago

        I use it often, but sadly I also must use other front-ends, becuse not all YT videos are working or don’t even appears in the searches (Invidious, Piped, PokeTube, ViewTube, DTube, Tubo…). Hard work for devs like you to show the middle finger to YT, congrats.

  • @trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com
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    11 year ago

    Every time I think “maybe I’ll buy youtube premium today” I see something like this and decide to insure ublock is updated.

    If you go anti consumer I go anti company.

    \o/

  • @LoganNineFingers@lemmy.ca
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    51 year ago

    My place of work requires Microsoft Edge or Google chrome. I’m having trouble with the ad blockers not working. Is there some combination that I should be using that would circumvent this? Or is the only option firefox? Obviously, everything I own at home and personal devices are Firefox :)

  • @cozy_agent@lemmy.world
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    501 year ago

    If that’s annoying have the people writing this article looked at their own website, ads on ads (and ads placeholders with adblock) with cookie and email subscription popups and SEO bullshit.

  • Supercritical
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    201 year ago

    I would pay for YouTube Premium, like I had been when I was a student ($7.99/month), but I’m not a student anymore and they want $19 a month. Fuck no.

  • FlavoredButtHair
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    1701 year ago

    Ad blocker still works. They really want people to stop using YouTube though, don’t they.

    • @helenslunch@feddit.nl
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      141 year ago

      If you’re using an ad-blocker or skipping ads, yes, they absolutely don’t give a shit if you stop using it, because you provide zero value to them and are only consuming their resources.

      • @ElectroNeutrino@lemmy.world
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        241 year ago

        Your metadata is still extremely valuable to them, and it’s not limited to just watch history and likes, but rather everything on how you engage in their services, including where your mouse cursor sits.

        • DacoTaco
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          1 year ago

          ^ mostly this. Ad revenue from watched ads isnt all of their income, not even close

          • @AeroLemming@lemm.ee
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            51 year ago

            If you block browser ads, they still make money off of you from mobile apps showing ads. If you use DNS-level blocking, they can still use your data to tailor ads for those around you.

            • @Womble@lemmy.world
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              31 year ago

              But the value per person they get from " use your data to tailor ads for those around you" a tiny amount and the amount they get from selling your eyeball space directly to paying customers is (comparatively) vast, I could easily see it being 1000x greater or even more. Youtube is going to war on adblockers for a reason.

        • @Moneo@lemmy.world
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          51 year ago

          Parroting the angry me Yorker whose name I forgot. If you use an ad blocker your likely privacy aware and they don’t get much/any meta data from you.

          Also YouTube is extremely costly to run. They are making it abundantly clear you are not valuable to them if you aren’t watching ads. You aren’t that important.

          • @ElectroNeutrino@lemmy.world
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            Yes and no. Metadata is more than just tracking info. I did mention watch history, likes, and mouse position, which are not things that can really be blocked. This also includes things such as how likely you are to click on a video based on thumbnail and screen position, how long you watch specific videos as well as how long your overall watch train is. They know what they’re showing you, where it is, and what you click and when; that’s enough to provide a hell of a lot if data. All in all, how you actually use the service is something that they pay very close attention to, and is still very valuable.

            Is it as valuable as tracking info and advertising, definitely not. But it’s far from worthless.

              • @ElectroNeutrino@lemmy.world
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                11 year ago

                Because you aren’t an individual to them, you’re a statistic providing them with valuable market research on how their service is used.

                “People that watch this collection of video classifications are more likely to watch videos who’s thumbnails have these characteristics. Only 1% of them use ad blocking so we can improve our ad presentation rate if we present more videos with these thumbnails to this group.”

    • @foggy@lemmy.world
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      901 year ago

      The real problem is that barriers to entry for competition are insurmountable.

      If I wanna compete, I gotta host those files somewhere. With Google, Amazon, or Microsoft. That’s basically my whole list of options.

      I mean, I can opt to do it myself, but… That’s beyond David v Goliath. No way I could manage the amount of spam, CSA, DMCA, terrorism/misinformation and other shit that would seek to take the competition out.

      • Karyoplasma
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        81 year ago

        The other reason why it’s impossible is simply that nobody would upload their genuine content to your site because it doesn’t get as much “engagement” as on YouTube. Social inertia is why YouTube can pretty much do whatever the fuck they want and people will stay.

        Twitch is the same thing for livestreams. Not even Facebook using fuck-you money to literally buy exclusivity contracts with streamers could change that. People just didn’t want to watch there (although I can understand their reluctance).

      • @AeroLemming@lemm.ee
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        121 year ago

        IMO a lot of the attacks on independent and federated social media probably come from their corporate competitors. Who has the most to gain from flooding Lemmy with CSAM? Reddit, obviously.

    • Nyfure
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      131 year ago

      ublock works perfectly, anything else shouldnt be used

  • WheatleyInc
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    271 year ago

    If you want people to disable content blockers on your website, it’s best not to treat the people who don’t have one on like shit YouTube.