I wonder if they know the dollar figure in sales that ads, for all their expense, have gained out of me. I’d say it’s near zero. You may say I am subconsciously influenced and even if I don’t click the ad, I may buy the product at some other date due to recognition. Maybe. But that individual ad impression that someone paid for that I did not click (or blocked) does not know that. And it’s quite likely they don’t care, because ever missed click is still getting the word out so to speak.
But what they should care about is the absolute dislike I have towards aggressive advertising. And I am not alone. When I face an unskippable or full page or pop up ad, I don’t subconsciously want that product then or later. I consciously hate the product just a little more and more with each impression.
And now that it’s an arms race, the lines are being drawn, the hatred being cultivated, and the whole effort has lost its entire point: To make me friendly toward the product and to buy it. And I feel like sites like YouTube essentially don’t give a shit. They have the advertisers convinced through some great effort that ads are effective and worth it. All while doing everything that they can to keep us corralled and our eyes pried open to view them.
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Ironically the linked site doesn’t show content if you’re using an ad blocker.
What adblocker are you using? ublock on Firefox does fine
Edit: I’m not using ublock origin. I forgot I was using my iPhone with AdGuard.
Recently I’ve had sites block content just for rejecting cookies.
Very rarely do I ever see a site that allows you to “reject all” cookies. Almost always they require you to consent to “strictly necessary” (but also completely unnecessary) cookies. It’s so fucked up.
Quite the norm in Italy, even tho I think it’s illegal
No ads here with adblocker + this. Anyway now I watch YT well with LightTube, or well on Desktop with MotionBox Video Browser or SMplayer. Faster, better quality and without any ad. FYT
lighttube maintainer here! thanks for your support!
I use it often, but sadly I also must use other front-ends, becuse not all YT videos are working or don’t even appears in the searches (Invidious, Piped, PokeTube, ViewTube, DTube, Tubo…). Hard work for devs like you to show the middle finger to YT, congrats.
Every time I think “maybe I’ll buy youtube premium today” I see something like this and decide to insure ublock is updated.
If you go anti consumer I go anti company.
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ADs? What ADs?
My place of work requires Microsoft Edge or Google chrome. I’m having trouble with the ad blockers not working. Is there some combination that I should be using that would circumvent this? Or is the only option firefox? Obviously, everything I own at home and personal devices are Firefox :)
Edge with ublock works. Have to clear cache every once in a while.
Use an alternative fromt end in edge. Piped is a good one and there are a lot of public instances available https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped/wiki/Instances
Use work browser for work and firefox for everything else?
SponsorBlock still works via Firefox.
Using ublock on Firefox, still working
That one was never blocked, youtube doesn’t gain money when surfshark pays a youtuber to tell you it’s a good vpn.
It also blocks normal answers well though
good thing i use revanced 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍📌
edit: not the pin
i thought the pin indicated a blood offering for a second
XD
My revanced has been out of date and non functional for a while, do you happen to recall how to update it? For some reason I’m struggling to remember the install process.
Personally I use revanced extended from GitHub. It’s got additional options and they release an APK, so I just download and install
If you don’t want to deal with that, NewPipe is pretty good. I’ve been using it for a bit and love it.
Can be found on f-droid or from their website
get a newer YouTube apk, install and then patch. the same way you install it in the first place. you reminded me that I need to do the same
Huh. My solution (for years now) has been to kill the YouTube ap entirely and watch videos on Firefox with uBlock Origin.
I may have to see if Revanced is a better experience.
Used to do that but recently switched over to ReVanced because Firefox pip would just show the corner of the webpage sometimes, or when I go to fullscreen the app would close, so I’d have to go back on Firefox again and fullscreen twice because the first time I fullscreen it doesn’t auto-rotate
If your rooted you can use magisk and just hunt down the revanced magisk zip.
BTW if you can only find the magisk apk rename the apk to .zip and you can fastboot flash to boot.
Alternatively I use Newpipe and testing Grayjay.
grayjay.app
If your rooted you can use magisk and just hunt down the revanced magisk zip.
Revanced APKs - Automated builds and distribution of ReVanced apps (unofficial):
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apks are not the best idea even from trusted sites. There’s probably a telegram link for it. I use the extended version which has some extra goodies: https://t.me/s/revanced_extended
Don’t trust some random site to download apks from, anyway, here’s my random telegram channel, use that…
That has to be trolling
If that’s annoying have the people writing this article looked at their own website, ads on ads (and ads placeholders with adblock) with cookie and email subscription popups and SEO bullshit.
I would pay for YouTube Premium, like I had been when I was a student ($7.99/month), but I’m not a student anymore and they want $19 a month. Fuck no.
$19? I don’t see that option
Subscribing through the iOS YouTube app is $19 because of Apple’s cut. He might mean that?
Apple tacks on another 50%? That seems high.
Ad blocker still works. They really want people to stop using YouTube though, don’t they.
If you’re using an ad-blocker or skipping ads, yes, they absolutely don’t give a shit if you stop using it, because you provide zero value to them and are only consuming their resources.
Your metadata is still extremely valuable to them, and it’s not limited to just watch history and likes, but rather everything on how you engage in their services, including where your mouse cursor sits.
^ mostly this. Ad revenue from watched ads isnt all of their income, not even close
If you block browser ads, they still make money off of you from mobile apps showing ads. If you use DNS-level blocking, they can still use your data to tailor ads for those around you.
But the value per person they get from " use your data to tailor ads for those around you" a tiny amount and the amount they get from selling your eyeball space directly to paying customers is (comparatively) vast, I could easily see it being 1000x greater or even more. Youtube is going to war on adblockers for a reason.
Exactly
Parroting the angry me Yorker whose name I forgot. If you use an ad blocker your likely privacy aware and they don’t get much/any meta data from you.
Also YouTube is extremely costly to run. They are making it abundantly clear you are not valuable to them if you aren’t watching ads. You aren’t that important.
Yes and no. Metadata is more than just tracking info. I did mention watch history, likes, and mouse position, which are not things that can really be blocked. This also includes things such as how likely you are to click on a video based on thumbnail and screen position, how long you watch specific videos as well as how long your overall watch train is. They know what they’re showing you, where it is, and what you click and when; that’s enough to provide a hell of a lot if data. All in all, how you actually use the service is something that they pay very close attention to, and is still very valuable.
Is it as valuable as tracking info and advertising, definitely not. But it’s far from worthless.
How is any of this information valuable to them if I block all ads?
Because you aren’t an individual to them, you’re a statistic providing them with valuable market research on how their service is used.
“People that watch this collection of video classifications are more likely to watch videos who’s thumbnails have these characteristics. Only 1% of them use ad blocking so we can improve our ad presentation rate if we present more videos with these thumbnails to this group.”
It doesn’t work for me, on my PC I can only use freetube. YouTube doesn’t work with ublock origin.
The real problem is that barriers to entry for competition are insurmountable.
If I wanna compete, I gotta host those files somewhere. With Google, Amazon, or Microsoft. That’s basically my whole list of options.
I mean, I can opt to do it myself, but… That’s beyond David v Goliath. No way I could manage the amount of spam, CSA, DMCA, terrorism/misinformation and other shit that would seek to take the competition out.
The other reason why it’s impossible is simply that nobody would upload their genuine content to your site because it doesn’t get as much “engagement” as on YouTube. Social inertia is why YouTube can pretty much do whatever the fuck they want and people will stay.
Twitch is the same thing for livestreams. Not even Facebook using fuck-you money to literally buy exclusivity contracts with streamers could change that. People just didn’t want to watch there (although I can understand their reluctance).
IMO a lot of the attacks on independent and federated social media probably come from their corporate competitors. Who has the most to gain from flooding Lemmy with CSAM? Reddit, obviously.
Oh, the irony.
ublock works perfectly, anything else shouldnt be used
useless Google, we said iOS smh
The screenshot is from an iPhone, on which uBlock isn’t an available option.
delete the stupid app and use youtube on safari with adblock. works like a charm.
They’re talking about the Android authority website
are they? I think they talk about the screenshots on that page showing the youtube app on iphone.
It’s a screenshot of the Android authority website. It was what popped up immediately when I clicked on the link.
Choose the walled garden, live in the walled garden.
If you want people to disable content blockers on your website, it’s best not to treat the people who don’t have one on like shit YouTube.
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What this—a tiny, ad-skip button for antz?
