It’s probably cocaine
Cokeium
cokaina… todays topic, slavery
Hyping up the stock price.
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We already have that abundance. It’s just waiting to be liberated.
It’s grifting, pure and simple. All those things may be possible but Sam Altman is spewing this line of bullshit to keep the venture capital flowing into his company.
Exactly. As a SW engineer, I don’t know how far we are from an AGI exactly, but I am confident enough Altman and openAi have no idea where to even start.
As a SW engineer
I read that and immediately thought of you working in a Star Wars hangar, fixing rebel ships
In Venice he never claims that he will be the one to do these things, at least in that tweet he doesn’t claim to be the one that’s going to do those things.
I’m not sure what the line about creating new realities means. I assume he means VR and not that AI is going to give us the ability to access hyperspace or something.
As a software engineer that works in AI, the “breakthrough” we’ve made is in proving that LLM’s can perform well at scale, and that hallucinations aren’t as big a problem as initially thought. Most tech companies didn’t do what OpenAI did because hallucinations are brand-damaging, whereas OpenAI didn’t give a fuck. In the next few years, all existing AI systems will be through LLM’s, and probably as good at ChatGPT.
We might make more progress now that researchers and academics see the value in LLM’s, but my weakly held opinion is that it’s mostly surrounded by hype.
We’re nowhere near what most would call AGI, although to be blunt, I don’t think the average person on here could truly tell you what that looks like without disagreeing with AI researchers.
and probably as good at ChatGPT
We are so fucked.
That sounds like the general consensus from most SW engineers.
And who do you think will be in charge of all of these things? Lol
Cocaine is a helluva drug.
The current state of capitalism will ensure the second line never sees the light of day
deregulated capitalism is a curse on society
Said looking at one regulated to almost mercantilist levels.
Are you stupid?
I don’t think so.
What, it seems stupid to you that monopolies created using copyright and patent laws designed to benefit domestic companies I call mercantilism? Bailing out companies “too big to fail” is regulation too. Health in USA is so expensive because it’s regulated to work this way.
There are plenty of regulations, just not those you’d want, too bad.
We can already create enough abondance that no human starves, sleep outside or can’t affotd medical treatment. Still look at the world.
Why bother to let humans live if they are not profitable enough for the megacorps? That almost sounds like work.
No no, they’re desperately looking for that, because gating infinite abundance away from the plebs will be amazing for quarterly profits and entertainment! Think of all the reality shows you can make by pitting the poor against themselves!
Healthy optimism
Optimism, pessimism, those are never healthy. They cloud your view of the truth, and make you assume that you know what you don’t.
So if a pilot is in a failing aeroplane and is coming down for a landing that he knows is almost certainly going to lead to death. Having a more optimistic view of the situation is always bad? What about the people on the plane that are either going to die instantly or live, why be scared beforehand.
One of my favourite quotes is:
“The young do not know enough to be prudent, and therefore they attempt the impossible - and achieve it, generation after generation.”
And this brings me back to optimism. How many times have you watched a sports game where it was shut out and over then in the dying minutes of the game you see a team win it and the commentators will say something like “no one thought that was possible, except for the men on the pitch and at the end of they day that’s all that matters”
I can’t believe I’m defending optimism because I’m thr least optimistic person in the world.
I can’t believe I’m defending optimism because I’m thr least optimistic person in the world.
I’m defending realism even if I’m extremely pessimistic, so… welcome to the club.
So if a pilot is in a failing aeroplane […]
From the pilot’s PoV, both optimism and pessimism mean the potential loss of the tiny chance of survival - one because it underestimates the effort necessary to achieve the desired result, another for giving it up. While realism is the option that actually allows you to seize that chance, and say “we’re probably fucked, but I can increase my odds of survival with my effort”.
From the passengers’ PoV: if they know that the plane will crash, and can’t realistically do anything about it, optimism means wasting their likely last moments of life. While realism means accepting “I’m going to die in a few moments; better grab the gorgonzola from my bag and enjoy it, I probably won’t be able to gift it to my cousin. Komm, Susser Tot!”
And this brings me back to optimism. How many times have you watched a sports game
I don’t watch sports, but I think that what I said still applies: optimism leading to less effort than the necessary to win, pessimism leading to giving up, realism leads to a cold analysis of the situation and what should be done to get the best result.
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The first paragraph? Can’t say I disagree.
Second paragraph? Delusional. Or actively deceitful. Given Altman’s background, I’m leaning toward the second.
We already have abundance at scale; the rest is just greed and logistics
It’s enough to look at how much stuff is available in a supermarket, or in the average, home, to know we live in an age of abundance. The problem is, is that abundance is not shared, but hoarded.
We have enough food to feed the world, we have enough production for everyone in the world to have a smartphone and internet access and electricity. We can make clothes for everyone, we can home everyone. We have enough healthcare for everyone.
By an objective measure, we have abundance, we have enough. The world is just severely mismanaging our resources and the distribution of them. Because the economy doesn’t work for humans, instead humans work for the economy.
Cure all human disease?
Paragraphs are bodies of text. So the second paragraph in this scenario is the one where we are only a few breakthroughs away.
Words are a series of letters.
He agrees that we can cure all human disease? That’s silly.
Marketing…
It’s a cult. Altman is one of the TESCREAL devotees. He truly believes that he can build the electronic messiah.
Hail the Omnissiah! I mean what-
Remember: burning an effigy a day keeps the Evil away~
Well, the bar for an electronic messiah is not that high, considering its predecessors in the cult field.
Aah, the innocence of 2022… 🫠
It’s delusional. The problems we have are not caused by lack of technology and cannot be solved by new technology.
I think he believes what he’s saying. From his perspective AGI will be great, and a lot of people think that AI and quantum computing will have a feedback loop where AI will help us create a better quantum computer which will make a better AI and so on…
Down here in the filth though, we’re going to go through mass unemployment, rapid shifts in markets, loss of privacy due to increasingly sophisticated AI powered surveillance, and complete loss of our freedom of speech.
So, all that stuff probably will happen to people like him. Just not us.
AI will help us create a better quantum computer which will make a better AI
Current “AI” is just LLMs. They don’t need some crazy quantum supercomputer. They aren’t improved by more processing power.
They need a ton of data to work at a basic level. There’s no reason to think that future programs will just get better on their own. Especially if a lot of data is now LLM generated. They have no capacity to learn on their own through research.
The irony of repeating the exact same thoughts as every thread like this contains, about how because it’s just a sophisticated “parrot” then it cannot be intelligent 😂
It’s true—for a very exclusive interpretation of “we”.
We’ll have all that, and escalating poverty at scales that are difficult to imagine…
He isn’t wrong, but the pathways is by taxing the absolute fuck out of billionaires
I don’t think most of these people realize that Earth has finite resources, and we’re already running short on some of them
These people jump immediately to star lifting what will give you several planets of resources and energy. It’s very “rest of the fucking owl.”
