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Again??! Fine. Let me go fetch my No.2 pencil.
I’d take that with many grains of salt, brands and influencers aren’t moving and neither are their followers
That seems like good news for Mastodon
That’s not terribly surprising, given that both of those groups rely most heavily on network effects: the very point of such accounts requires being where their audience is, especially brands. Those kinds of accounts will move en masse only when most everyone else has already done so
Also, we do have some influencers here - namely a few Linux youtubers, and technology connections. Basically it’s those that you would somewhat expect to have a presence on a budding social network like mastodon.
Wasnt aware technology connections was on masto. Admittedly I dont use my mastodon all that much, becuase I dont really much enjoy the microblogging formula as much as a more forum like system like I could get from reddit and now lemmy, but the only youtuber Im familiar with that Ive been able to find there thus far has been NotJustBikes.
I see George Takei and Neil Gaiman post on there :)
Exactly, no one cares until Mr beast or Beyonce moves and they aren’t going to mastodon haha
I would like more of a sports presence here tho and unfortunately sports beat writers I followed on Twitter aren’t coming here
No, screw sports! Open your own instance for that. It was so annoying to block sports on reddit every single week.
Why did you have to do it every week?
Because a new sub would pop up every week. Braves, nhl, baseball, redsox, golf, etc.
Yeah I meant more in it’s own instance vs here. But what I’m saying is even if I do I won’t get the breaking news content I want because the journalists are not switching over
There is a sports instance of Lemmy, I don’t remember what it’s called though. I think I saw the red devils community (name could be wrong, I don’t watch sports) drop a post about moving to the instance.
Yeah. Apparently called fanaticus.social
Found it on https://join-lemmy.org/instances
There are some bots on Mastodon that mirror tweets from sports reporters that I’d followed on Twitter.
It’s annoying that’s you can’t respond to things like mailbag questions, but I can still get breaking news, NFL training camp reports, etc.
I hear ya. Sorry, I didn’t mean to shit on your hobbies and interests. Everyone likes what they like.
If they do, it will be because we’ve reached an arbitrary critical mass. Think, mastodon has 2.1M active users now, twitter has 230M active users.
Mastodon will be considered viable at roughly the same number of users that caused the media to think of twitter as “mainstream”
I’m thinking at least 20M users, 10x what mastodon has now.
They’re not going to go to mastodon, but there have already been a pretty big exodus to Threads. I have a feeling that’s going to be the thing - twitter is going to die slowly mostly in favor of Threads, meanwhile Mastodon and the fediverse will probably continue being a minor player for a while.
I remember when facebook changed its looks to mimic twitter (the whole newsfeed launch was part of that.) I can’t believe it. After 10+ years, fucking facebook might actually dethrone twitter.
Threads will kill nothing for as long as it remains unavailable in Europe due to breaking GDPR.
Bluesky is more likely, particularly given its Twitter’s former ceo building it.
Bluesky just barely hit a million users is still invite only and is largely in a beta state, and though I’m not on it, everyone I know says it’s a zombie platform and they’d rather be on Mastodon for nerd shit or Threads for normie shit. Threads has over 100m users already. The numbers alone make Bluesky not really worth mentioning, and effectively Threads killed it within the first day. Dorsey has also shown a track record of having no idea what he’s doing. Probably half of the things people think about with Twitter come from the community. @mentions, rt, the term “tweet”, etc. The twitter app was developed by a third party and bought.
As much as Zuckerberg sucks, Meta actually runs like a real company with adults at the helm. Dorsey’s already fucking up bluesky not learning anything from his time at twitter and not making moderation a priority. Brands are already embracing Threads over Twitter and Bluesky because they don’t want their ads showing up next to porn and nazis.
Oh, and as for GDPR, Meta has already stated they plan for a later launch, and again since it’s a company of (sociopathic?) adults, they’ll actually get it done, but it’s already effectively over.
Meta has already been hit with antitrust by the EU. Even if they later get around the fact they’re breaking GDPR by datasharing all the instagram accounts (which is where the inflated number of users comes from) they can not get around the Digital Markets Act coming into effect next year which carries a fine of 10% of all global revenue for actions like this.
It’s been stated that Meta intends to federate Threads with Mastodon eventually, so either will ultimately be viable.
I have zero faith that will happen. I don’t think they anticipated how well threads would be adopted and that saying they’d federate was just a hedge.
A few instances will likely federate with threads, but probably not the interesting ones…
I think the implication was that Threads will not actually federate
Oh I think they’ll do, just to not miss the train, and then they’ll find a “smart” way to “destroy” federation and get people on their side… But we’ll see…
I bet they’ll pull a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish
I’m sure that’s what they want. A free and open platform that doesn’t rely on advertising and isn’t there to make a profit? Kill it!
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I would assume the real surges would be in bluesky and threads. Out of the frying pan and into the other frying pan.
People don’t really understand Mastodon and federation (nor do I blame them for that), but those details are now much, much less in your face than they were when Elon bought Twitter. Mastodon’s reliability and usefulness has also improved a lot since Elon bought Twitter. Nothing else works quite like sending a few hundred thousand people your way to stress test your product (and some of them are even nice enough to give money, too!)
Another article I read theorized that Threads launching might have increased the awareness of ActivityPub and softened peoples resistance to the “Mastodon is too hard, not worth trying to figure out” messaging in the media. Who knows though, and there’s probably not a single answer anyway.
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Nobody is using Bluesky. It’s dead now that Threads is here and Tiktok is coming out with their own thing.
Mmm…which flavor of privacy invasion would you like?
Damn, elon’s really leaning into that edgelord dystopian faceless corporation aesthetic huh
Ironically the two are only half way competing with each other. There’s two buckets of twitter peeps:
A) People who keep up with specific people, reducing day by day.
B) The for you page peeps. The vast majority of people I know on Twitter including myself are there for the algorithm feeding us memes and content. Specifically the 2016-2021 algorithm.
Considering mastodon doesn’t have any form of FYP/For you it’s really only competing for bucket A which in my experience has reduced by an incredible amount in the past few years and continues to reduce and makes it useless to a large majority of twitter users.
Unfortunately or fortunately twitters algorithm also sucks now so there’s a pretty big market gap here.
When I did use twitter it was for being the fastest way to get news on events developing in real time. George Floyd protests, J6 coup attempt, start of war in Ukraine, etc. And not just national/world news but also local news. I don’t really that type of use fits in to your two buckets and unfortunately I don’t think Mastodon is quite there yet to fulfill this type of thing either, but I definitely think it could with more time and more users. Fuck the influencers and people looking for ‘content’ imo, when people are going to Mastodon with breaking news is when we’ll know twitter is completely dead.
Definitely true, totally forgot about breaking events in my original comment. I would say it still lands in bucket B as it’s algorithmically fed at least in my experience as I don’t follow many news sources directly, it just finds its way into my feed via the algorithm.
when people are going to Mastodon with breaking news is when we’ll know twitter is completely dead.
Absolutely great point
Fast, but inefficient.
Inefficient how? I don’t use twitter, I never liked twitter being mentioned in the actual news (“a user twitted this, another use twitted that, etc”), but what’s more efficient than opening that stupid app and getting content from people who are in the area where the news is happening?
Real time breaking news has an extremely low signal-to-noise ratio. It’s mostly FUD and mis or dis information.
The Mastodon app has a “for you” section if you go to search and swipe from posts>hashtags>news>local>for you. You have to look for it though.
Mastodon, Lemmy & kbin 😊👍
Yep loving all three!
Hopefully this means there are accounts on Mastodon actually worth interacting with. Like 99.9999% of posts on Mastodon are literally just about Mastodon, or stupid tech shit I don’t care about.
The tech community moved to Mastodon in mass. I follow tech and cannot keep up with the feed.
Use the hashtag and follow people you find interesting. Your feed will improve as you curate it to your liking. It’s on you. There is no algorithm feeding you.
There is no algorithm feeding you.
Mmmm say it again
There are no people I find interesting. I cannot stress this enough, Mastodon has absolutely jack shit for content. A hashtag with relevancy to me might have two posts, EVER, both from dead accounts.
It is a barren wasteland. I am very much tired of people assuming I want to be spoonfed content when I just want there to be any content at all.
I mostly just used Twitter to keep updated on various indie games/artists/authors/content creators. I’d imagine they would go to Threads or Tiktok’s new thing before giving Mastadon a shot, and some of them have.
I don’t want to be a downer; Mastadon would be my favorite Twitter alternative with how it functions, but in its present state Mastadon just doesn’t work for my use case. I think for now I just have to phase Twitter-likes out of my life unless I’m willing to bite the bullet on putting up with meta or 𝕏.
Yes and no. For example, I work in pest control and mostly lurked twitter for pest control content, as a lot of experts in that field used twitter exclusively and never bothered with facebook, instagram, reddit, discord, or any other networking site.
There is absolutely no pest control content from those experts on Mastodon at this time. Niche, I know, but its a concrete example about how not every base is covered on Mastodon (yet).
Its silly to blame people for not flocking there when there is a demonstrable lack of content.
Made a mastodon account but most people’s I know don’t use it, so yeah. Might be why I’m using Lemmy more. Topics are usually more interesting than individual people.
*rubs hands together* good, goooood
The problem with Mastodon is that I couldn’t make any sense of it. 😂
What’s the problem? Like signing up or finding people?
I’ve found the trick or to follow hashtags rather than people. But it’s a balancing act, sometimes you’ll find your stream gets flooded with one topic so you need to refine what you are following.
It’s really not all that different from Twitter in terms of the interface.
Not in terms of the interface, but I couldn’t get the timeline to not be a complete mess of all sorts of topics.
You have to follow hashtags. That sorts things out. Or at least it does for me.
I’ll have to make a new account and give it a go.
Yeah the main difference is that there is no echo-chamber algorithm serving content in the way we’re used to with more corporate social media. It’s up to you to discover what you like and build your feed
Did you try? It’s really not that complicated. Maybe you’re just dense.
It’s really good. Twitter doesn’t need to lose for Mastodon to win. But, also, Twitter is probably about to lose.
Get them onto kbin.social. we can always use some extra mates! 🦙
I never used Twitter, but I’m enjoying Mastodon + Lemmy!
I’m trying, lol. Just followed a bunch of accounts on Mastodon in an attempt to make my homepage more interesting. Loving Lemmy, but while I don’t necessarily want the absolute deluge of bullshit like reddit has, for my taste the fediverse still has a lot of growing to do (and I hope it gets there!)
Same thing for me over here, trying to subscribe to enough communities to make my home feed custom enough, but if I’m bored, test c/all
What was Musk’s logic? Was there any? It’s like he ruined the reputation of Twitter and decided to try a restart under a new name but it’s predictably failing.
The perfect plan
step 1: spend billions buying an extremely recognizable brand
step 2: rebrand itI actually can’t believe he is going forward with this. Twitter achieved the goal of becoming a verb, “tweeting”. Companies kill for that, and he’s just throwing it away? all the mindshare and recognition? for what?
Plus how do you even make a new verb? Doesn’t even work in the slightest. “Oh hey did you see my recent X?” … “oh man the other day Steph X’d something hilarious “ …. Lol nope doesn’t work.
I’m going to x out of this…
wait…that doesn’t work…
I’m going to hit the x to delete…no.
x to exit?
I’m stuck too. lol
He’s going to buy two more platforms and call one S and the other E
so XSE?
I’m convinced that Musk and Huffman are hanging out smoking pot and taking dmt, stroking each other till orgasm whispering in each other’s ear how great their plans are.
Good to see. X marks the death
Esketit fediverse let’s gooooo
