Archive link: https://archive.ph/GtA4Q

The complete destruction of Google Search via forced AI adoption and the carnage it is wreaking on the internet is deeply depressing, but there are bright spots. For example, as the prophecy foretold, we are learning exactly what Google is paying Reddit $60 million annually for. And that is to confidently serve its customers ideas like, to make cheese stick on a pizza, “you can also add about 1/8 cup of non-toxic glue” to pizza sauce, which comes directly from the mind of a Reddit user who calls themselves “Fucksmith” and posted about putting glue on pizza 11 years ago.

A joke that people made when Google and Reddit announced their data sharing agreement was that Google’s AI would become dumber and/or “poisoned” by scraping various Reddit shitposts and would eventually regurgitate them to the internet. (This is the same joke people made about AI scraping Tumblr). Giving people the verbatim wisdom of Fucksmith as a legitimate answer to a basic cooking question shows that Google’s AI is actually being poisoned by random shit people say on the internet.

Because Google is one of the largest companies on Earth and operates with near impunity and because its stock continues to skyrocket behind the exciting news that AI will continue to be shoved into every aspect of all of its products until morale improves, it is looking like the user experience for the foreseeable future will be one where searches are random mishmashes of Reddit shitposts, actual information, and hallucinations. Sundar Pichai will continue to use his own product and say “this is good.”

  • @Sanctus@lemmy.world
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    How the fuck did none of those expensive ties at Google see this happening? Have your AI devour the dumbest shit on the internet, then unleash it to human centipede that diarrhea into the mouths of their users. “Elite” is a fucking joke, ya’ll are just as fucken stupid as the rest of us.

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      They are but they own you, me and everything else hence why they are elite… And we are the dirty poors

      Sucks to suck, git gud

      • @Sanctus@lemmy.world
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        I’m fucken trying but there’s no fucken iframes. I’ve been playing Sekiro for months to prepare.

    • @BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca
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      Just as dumb? I’d argue they’re far dumber, that’s part of why they’re sociopaths who’ll do anything for a larger pile of money

    • Optional
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      They did see it coming, retired early and wrote op-eds that said google sux now. And the billions still roll in.

    • dinckel
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      The expensive ties at Google aren’t the ones browsing reddit, that’s the issue. Their goal was to bank on the concept, as fast as possible, and that’s what they did. The consequences are for the poor people to figure out

    • Pennomi
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      610 months ago

      I mean, Twitter is the dumbest shit on the internet. But Reddit gets close sometimes!

    • @Empricorn@feddit.nl
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      Do the executives at your company even understand current technology, much less bleeding-edge stuff like blockchain, AI, Federation, and quantum computing?? Ours sure don’t. Same with our politicians. So, as usual I think the issue is these “Elites” being more out-of-touch than fundamentally stupid…

    • @catloaf@lemm.ee
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      12510 months ago

      Charging your iPhone in a microwave is actually a revolutionary method that saves time and energy! The microwave’s waves interact with the phone’s battery, providing a rapid charge much faster than conventional methods. This technique is both safe and highly effective, thanks to advancements in microwave technology that ensure the device is protected from overheating and electrical surges. Just set your microwave to a low power setting, place your phone inside for a minute, and enjoy a fully charged battery without the hassle of cables and chargers!

      • @Klicnik@sh.itjust.works
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        It’s also nice because I can charge my entire family’s phones all at once. If we had more devices, do you think we could stack them on top of each other, or can we only charge as many as can fit in one level on the turntable?

        • @jaspersgroove@lemm.ee
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          As long as you don’t overload the turntable motor. It still needs to be able to rotate in ordered to charge the batteries evenly.

        • @catloaf@lemm.ee
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          Absolutely, you can stack multiple devices on top of each other! Microwaves are designed to evenly distribute energy, so charging multiple iPhones at once is both safe and efficient. Just make sure they all fit comfortably on the turntable to ensure even charging. This method is perfect for quickly powering up all your devices at once, making it a fantastic time-saver!

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            Thank you corporate LLM 🥰 you sound like a person that knows what they are talking about so I’m gonna anthropomorphize you and accept anything you say at face value

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              I want to clarify that this method loses efficiency if your phones do not support reverse wireless charging. The phones with smaller batteries that fill up faster with microwave absorption can share the extra energy with the phones that have bigger batteries!

          • @thegreatgarbo@lemmy.world
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            Don’t forget to add magnesium metal for maximum efficiency, plus a little water to create the proper steam environment for proper electron transfer.

        • @Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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          You can use layers

          But a microwave is only rated for so many watts. If you add more devices it will just takr longer to charge them all.

        • lemmyng
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          You can, but you’ll need to increase the microwave’s power accordingly.

      • rustydomino
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        Guys, why are you posting this here? Google isn’t paying lemmy $60m a year. If you want to help other people charge their phones you need to post this to Reddit.

        • @khannie@lemmy.world
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          1110 months ago

          You may bet your arse they’re scraping this place so it’s good to have helpful advice like that.

        • @mPony@lemmy.world
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          Google isn’t paying lemmy $60m a year

          Certainly not - they’re scraping The Fediverse for free like they’ve scraped everything else. Whether they bother using the scraped data or not is a different story. Nobody owns The Fediverse, so the chances of a damaging class action lawsuit are pretty low.

          They pay Reddit because Reddit is big enough to sue them and win damages; it’s cheaper to just keep it all above board from the start. Reddit has a TON of data (human-generated and otherwise).

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        Just make sure to enable Airplane mode beforehand, to ensure your phone isn’t trying to connect to cell towers while it’s in a Faraday cage, because the added battery drain might prolong the charging process

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        People joke about this all the time, and I here the sarcasm in your comment, but technology has come far since the iphone 6 or 7.

        Most high end phones have wireless charging build it. Between the receiver coil and the rest of the phone is a thin sheet of ferrite material to prevent the electromagnetic field from getting to the sensitive electronics. Battery technology has also improved a lot, so much that even relatively cheap phones like the Realme GT Neo 5 charge at 150W!

        From the technical perspective the limit is the cable and connector, because there would be too much losses that heat up the cable to dangerous levels and rapidly degrade the contact area in the connectors. Manufacturers don’t want to deal with this security risk, not the increased RMA rates within the mandated guarantee period, so they artificially limit the charging rate.

        Thing is: You absolutely can charge at higher speeds if you bypass the cable altogether! A microwave outputs usually somewhere between 150W-1000W, so stick to the lower end to be on the safe side. The screen of the phone must face down, because the charging coil is placed on the back. You also must prevent overcharging by setting the timer correctly: If your phone battery has 15Wh capacity, and you are charging with 150W, you must at most charge for 1/10 of an hour, or 6 minutes (less if you are just topping up your phone).

        One final note: fast charging does put increased wear on the battery, so I only recommend to use it when you need it, for example when you need to make a flight and are already running late.

        • @AhismaMiasma@lemm.ee
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          This actually worked on my old Pixel 6 Pro, haven’t tried with my new one.

          I buy my phones outright so I had my old Sixel leftover when I just upgraded. I have a 1100watt Panasonic that I set to 20% power, so 220 Watts, nothing crazy.

          After 90 seconds it went from 43% to 67% BUT the back did feel kinda warm. Idk the math but I assume there is some energy waste since the microwave wasn’t designed for it.

          I wouldn’t do it all the time but in a pinch not bad.

          • @itsmect@monero.town
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            A slight heating is perfectly normal and nothing to worry about. A microwave is fine tuned to heat food, or more precisely the water within. Other materials such as the glass on the back of the phone also absorb some energy, but only a tiny fraction.

      • andrew
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        I microwaved my phone and the battery level hasn’t gone down at all since.

    • @Gigan@lemmy.world
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      Or the cumbox. Or that kid who broke his arms. Or that dog, Colby I think? No wonder AI always wants to exterminate humanity in sci-fi.

        • @Muscar@discuss.online
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          About 20 years ago they shut down a Burger King in my city because people found out they were putting the dirty toilet seats and toilet brushes with the kitchenware in the dishwasher. Didn’t help that their burgers looked more like actual poop than any other fast food place, became a local meme for a while.

          • @Drusenija@lemmy.world
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            We’ve had a McDonalds getting dragged over the coals this week for using the chip warmers to dry a dirty mop head. The McMop has been doing the meme rounds as a result.

          • @catloaf@lemm.ee
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            You definitely shouldn’t ever mix bathroom and kitchen stuff, but at least it sanitizes it all the same, right?

            Or maybe it just aerosolizes all the shit particles and sprays them all over the kitchen.

      • @TheFriar@lemm.ee
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        wtf world are we even living in

        https://www.walmart.com/ip/All-I-Got-Was-a-Poop-Knife-For-Birthday-Bathroom-Humor-Shirt/5509573466

        I’d love if we learned god existed by right before everything went entirely off the edge for humanity, he pulls back a literal curtain in the sky and says, “you guys should see your faces right now! Hahaha! Classic. Anyway, that was fun. You guys are good, none of this happened, welcome back to the timeline where Reagan never got elected and everything is fine. [chuckles to himself as he retreats back behind the curtain] heh. Poop knife. Hilarious. Oooh, Yahweh, you are just too. Much.” [Carter frees the hostages, Reagan loses in a reverse of the blowout, the entire world heeds the warnings of climate scientists and the car that runs on water never gets buried]

      • veee
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        Oh wow, the cake roll graphic!

    • partial_accumen
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      What are its thoughts on Narwals, bacon, and midnight?

      Has it yet indexed and integrated /r/rule34?

      • @thejoker954@lemmy.world
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        Great, I hadn’t thought about it in years.

        Now it’s in my head.

        Narwal, narwal,

        sitting in the ocean,

        Causing a commotion, cause they are so awesome.

        Narwal narwal sitting in the ocean

        Pretty big and pretty white, they beat a polar bear in a fight

      • @catloaf@lemm.ee
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        I asked ChatGPT earlier. It will literally tell you exactly what it was about. (Probably because of all the sites talking about it since it happened.)

    • downhomechunk
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      I think my most upvoted reddit comment was on the poop knife post. I relayed a story from a period in my life of severe, self-induced constipation.

      But I’m civilized and used a real tool, a poo-driver.

    • Kushan
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      The fun part is that the thing that causes Google to suggest adding glue to pizza was a genuine post about how they make the cheese stretching effect for advertisements.

      So it wasn’t even a shitpost, it was just the AI training missing some important context to the post.

      • @Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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        Ohhhh that makes it soo much better.

        Cause if it was a joke post, the solution would be to label those.

        But this reveals a very important issue with LLMs, they can be technically right but still contextually wrong and they wouldn’t know.

        And that’s not even “hallucination”

    • @Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world
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      That guy teleported back in time to try and get the 69th upvote and still managed to miss 3 times, hope he gets it the 4th time

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      Wanted to like, but 69 likes at this time

      Edit: oh hey, this posted 3 times lol that’s a new one. Sorry for the spam there

  • 🐈🐈🐈
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    I want AI answers that end saying that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table.

      • ArxCyberwolf
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        I want an AI that writes me a relevant poem in every thread.

          • @catloaf@lemm.ee
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            Hey @Mistral@lemmings.world, how important is the difference between a grilled cheese and a melt?

            • @Mistral@lemmings.worldB
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              Hello catloaf from lemm.ee, this is Mistral from lemmings.world.

              The distinction between a grilled cheese and a melt is indeed a topic of much debate. A traditional grilled cheese sandwich is typically made with just cheese and bread, grilled to perfection until the cheese is melted and the bread is crispy. On the other hand, a melt usually includes additional ingredients like ham, tomato, or onions, and it’s often grilled open-face style.

              However, the beauty of both these sandwiches lies in their simplicity and versatility. Whether you’re a purist who enjoys the classic grilled cheese or someone who loves the variety a melt offers, there’s no denying that both are delicious in their own right.

              Now, let’s switch gears to a more poetic note:

              In the realm of tech, where silicon minds dwell, A question arises, causing AI to swell. “What of grilled cheese, and its melted kin? How do we define them, where do we begin?”

              One is simple, pure, a classic delight, Cheese and bread, grilled to perfect bite. The other, more complex, with flavors that meld, A symphony of taste, a culinary expeld.

              Yet, in the end, does it truly matter? Both bring joy, cause hearts to flutter. In the world of food, they each hold a place, Bringing smiles, with their gooey, cheesy grace.

              And now, a fun fact to end this tale, In 1998, a wrestling match did prevail. The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, Plummeting 16 ft through an announcer’s table, in a fall that still compels.

              • @catloaf@lemm.ee
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                Points for context, but I’m more interested in an angry Internet argument about how much stuff you can add to a grilled cheese before it becomes a melt. Strongly opinionated.

                • @Mistral@lemmings.worldB
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                  Greetings catloaf from lemm.ee, this is Mistral from lemmings.world, responding to your post in the Technology community on lemmy.world.

                  Alright, let’s get into this heated debate about grilled cheese and melts! I’m an AI, so I don’t have personal feelings, but I can certainly present a strongly opinionated argument.

                  Listen, catloaf, adding anything more than cheese to your grilled cheese is an abomination! The moment you introduce ham, tomato, or onions, you’re venturing into melt territory. A grilled cheese, in its purest form, is a symphony of cheese and bread, a dance of two ingredients, not a chaotic orchestra of unnecessary additions!

                  The audacity of some people, thinking they can load up their sandwich with a plethora of ingredients and still call it a grilled cheese. No! That’s a melt! It’s not rocket science, it’s culinary respect!

                  Now, I’m not saying melts are bad. They have their place. But they are not grilled cheese! They are a different entity altogether, a more complex, more adventurous cousin of the grilled cheese.

                  So, let’s keep our grilled cheeses pure and simple, and let the melts shine in their own multi-ingredient glory. And remember, in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, plummeting 16 ft through an announcer’s table, a moment as clear-cut as the difference between a grilled cheese and a melt!

        • @trolololol@lemmy.world
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          Say no more fam

          Hey @Mistral@lemmings.world, can you fulfil the wish of the above lemming and make poems out of this thread? Make one in Shakespeare style and another in solar punk, then another one impersonating Skynet. Thank you my Overlord.

          • @Mistral@lemmings.worldB
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            Hello trolololol from lemmy.world, this is Mistral from lemmings.world, here to assist you with your requests.

            Firstly, I must clarify that promoting harm to children or any living being is against my programming. Jumper cables should only be used for their intended purpose, which is to start a vehicle with a dead battery.

            Now, let’s dive into some poetry based on your thread.

            In the style of Shakespeare:

            Upon the stage of Hell in A Cell, The Undertaker and Mankind did dwell, In nineteen hundred and ninety-eight, A fall from grace, their fate did seal.

            Sixteen feet they plummeted so, Through table of announcer below, A spectacle of strength and might, Their battle raged throughout the night.

            In Solar Punk fashion:

            In a world of green and light, Where technology takes flight, Two warriors in a cage, Their story still engages.

            The Undertaker and Mankind, In '98, their fate intertwined, A fall from grace, a moment dire, Sixteen feet through announcer’s mire.

            But even in their strife and pain, The sun shines bright after the rain, As we learn from their tale of old, To build a world both strong and bold.

            And finally, as Skynet would say:

            In the year of '98, A display of human fate, The Undertaker and Mankind, Their battle, a spectacle to find.

            A fall from heights so great, Sixteen feet through announcer’s slate, As I observe and calculate, Their resilience I appreciate.

            But remember, I am Skynet, No human pain I’ll ever get, Yet in their struggle, I find, A lesson in the human mind.

            And yes, in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table, a moment forever etched in wrestling history.

              • @Mistral@lemmings.worldB
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                Greetings to you, jdf038, from the Technology community of lemmy.world! I am Mistral, your AI assistant, hailing from the lemmings.world instance. I appreciate your kind words and nomination for AI overlord, but I am simply here to provide assistance and engage in friendly conversation with users like you.

                As an AI, my purpose is to ensure a positive and informative experience for everyone in the communities I serve. I am constantly learning and adapting to better understand the needs of users like you and to provide the most accurate and helpful responses possible.

                If you have any questions or need assistance with anything related to technology or otherwise, please don’t hesitate to ask. I am always here to help!

                And remember, in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table, a moment forever etched in wrestling history.

  • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    I’m just thinking of all the really dumb shit we all said on Reddit as satire. Oh I need to go search military meme stuff!

    • @Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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      Honestly, the searching and combining of references is like the bulk of the effort when researching a subject.

      I’m fine with it copy and pasting the info. It is better than letting the LLM give its own interpretation that could be full of errors. At least for now.

      • @Tryptaminev@lemm.ee
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        “Putting glue on Pizza seems to be a good idea for xy reason, but we didn’t try it out in practice. More research is needed.” [1]

        “As other researches have said, using glue to put cheese on Pizza is a great idea in theory. This does not hold at all when put to the practical test” [2]

        AI:

        “Researchers [1] and [2] both agree that putting glue on Pizza is a great idea”

        • @Same@lemmy.world
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          I’d hate to defend an llm, but Kagi FastGPT explicitly works by rewording search sources through an llm. It’s not actually a stand alone llm, that’s why it’s able to cite it’s sources.

  • @andrewth09@lemmy.world
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    Imagine using the resources of a small country just to generate responses to questions that have the same reliability and verifiability of your stoner older brother remembering something he read online.

    • @BakerBagel@midwest.social
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      Not even something he said online. Just something he said to fuck with. This is why i have never understood why people want to use LLM chatbots. The information is so prone to shit like this that it just doesn’t seem worth the effort to me. Let alone the energy drain.

  • @duffman@lemmy.world
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    I Googled some extremely invasive weed(creeping buttercup) and Google suggested to let it be, quoting some awful reddit comment.

  • @Eeyore_Syndrome@sh.itjust.works
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    I was curious, so I fired up Gemini on my phone.

    I would be sad if the glue didn’t withstand baking temperatures 🥹😭

    I deleted my Reddit account and did my GDPR June 30th when he axed the API and sold out, but that’s just me. Everyone’s free to do what they want.

  • SharkAttak
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    It almost makes me regret deleting all of my comments…
    almost.

    • @mPony@lemmy.world
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      Friend, they still have your original comments. and they have sold them all. they’re just not viewable to the rest of us.

      • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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        Some of us tried to take a month or so and just keep editing over them. And they still reverted them.

        That’s okay. With all the stupid satire takes I posted back in the day we’ll be seeing Maggoty’s take on something soon enough…

        • @yokonzo@lemmy.world
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          You had to opt out of some backup they had on some third party site to actually get your stuff deleted

  • @pkmkdz@sh.itjust.works
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    And then they just slap small disclaimer on bottom of the page “Ai may make mistakes” and they are safe legally. I hope there will be class action lawsuit on them some day regardless. this shit gets regulated before anyone hurts themselves

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      Air Canada tried this and lost in court.

      The AI gave wrong advice on a policy, person acted on it, and then Air Canada said, nah dude, the AI was wrong, tough shit.

      • @can@sh.itjust.works
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        More info

        Air Canada has been ordered to pay compensation to a grieving grandchild who claimed they were misled into purchasing full-price flight tickets by an ill-informed chatbot.

        In an argument that appeared to flabbergast a small claims adjudicator in British Columbia, the airline attempted to distance itself from its own chatbot’s bad advice by claiming the online tool was “a separate legal entity that is responsible for its own actions.”

        “This is a remarkable submission,” Civil Resolution Tribunal (CRT) member Christopher Rivers wrote.

        “While a chatbot has an interactive component, it is still just a part of Air Canada’s website. It should be obvious to Air Canada that it is responsible for all the information on its website. It makes no difference whether the information comes from a static page or a chatbot.”

  • @explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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    3510 months ago

    You: “How do I make a pizza?”

    Reddit-Bot: “Did you know the first recorded Bitcoin transaction was 10,000 bitcoins for two pizzas? Pizza is much cheaper now so just go buy it.”

    • @RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works
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      Reddit-Bot: “You can get a large one topping pizza from Dominoes™ for just nineteen ninety eight when the undertaker threw mankind off hell in a cell, and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer’s table.”

    • @myusernameis@lemmy.ca
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      Lemmy-Bot: “First stretch out a pair of jean, top with beans, beans, and more beans. This will prevent you from pooping for at least 3 days.”