Microsoft shuts down Cortana, Apple should do the same with Siri::Cortana is Microsoft’s virtual assistant, which was introduced in 2014 back when Windows Phone was still a thing. Similar to…

  • @o_oli@lemmy.world
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    482 years ago

    Microsoft isn’t giving up on assistants (as per the article), its just going down a different route, more AI focused. This is sensible because Cortana is a flop, nobody uses it, there is no need to leave it running.

    I’m certain Apple has the same plans around AI, however people still use Siri all the time. It’s not a flop, so it may as well stay running as more and more AI works its way over to it or its replacement.

    It’s really weird to me that anyone would want it shut down when it’s so easy to just not use it.

    • @Psythik@lemm.ee
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      52 years ago

      I too actually bothered to read the article.

      Cortana is trash. Bing’s AI isn’t perfect, but at least it’s not afraid to say “I don’t know”, instead of hallucinating some made up bullshit every single time. I mean it still does it, but not nearly as often and you can always check the sources it provides to confirm.

      It would be a lot better if it used Google search instead of Bing, however. Often times it can’t find the answer that a Google search can. That merger will never happen, though.

  • @rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de
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    2 years ago

    Please not Siri, it ain’t smart but it does everything I want - the basics and reasonably easily.

    I remember Cortana fondly when it was a great blend of Siri and Google Now but naturally it and Windows Phone got left to rot, and made her useless on desktop Windows since they forfeited my pocket.

    I tolerated Google Assistant for a bit but ditched Android when Google pushed updates to remove the “okay Google with the screen off” feature from my Moto Z Play and gaslit the internet - stating it was never supported in closed support threads, the chipset didn’t support it and promoted it as a (then new) Pixel 1 feature. I figured Apple wouldn’t remove “Hey Siri” and so far several years in it’s still holding true.

    • @Ejh3k@midwest.social
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      32 years ago

      I miss the squeeze to activate Google assistant. I used that all the time, but since I upgraded my pixel and it’s no longer an option, I just don’t use it ever.

      • @smackjack@lemmy.world
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        12 years ago

        I don’t miss it at all. Every time I put my phone in my cupholder, it would activate, but when I actually needed it to work, it just wouldn’t.

  • _haha_oh_wow_
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    2 years ago

    I use my Google assistant all the time…

    …mostly to set timers.

    Great for it though!

  • @ilega_dh@feddit.nl
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    512 years ago

    Nah, I use Siri daily for simple tasks. Turning on lights, setting timers, adding things to my groceries list. She’s simple, but perfectly fine for simple tasks.

    Please leave her the fuck alone :’)

      • 6xpipe_
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        32 years ago

        I use Shortcuts to bridge Siri to my Home Assistant setup. Apple doesn’t control my house.

      • @BorgDrone@lemmy.one
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        242 years ago

        For most people, if they want any kind of home automation then they’d have to trust someone, as most people won’t be able to deploy and maintain their own system. So now you have 2 options (other than just not automating your home)

        • Trust a company you already have to trust (since they provide the OS and hardware for your computer, phone, tablet, watch, etc.)
        • Trust an additional company

        So would you rather bet on 1 company not being evil, or 2 companies not being evil?

  • @djsaskdja@endlesstalk.org
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    242 years ago

    It’s too embedded into their services at the moment. Like you can’t even use CarPlay unless you enable Siri. I like the idea but in contrast they could also just try to make it good lol.

    • @Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      42 years ago

      Whoa, you need Siri enabled for CarPlay?! I refuse to have any voice things turned on any devices and I’ve been considering upgrading my horribly slow double DIMM radio to a CarPlay radio. I guess I’ll skip that.

      • @djsaskdja@endlesstalk.org
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        32 years ago

        Yep. I don’t own a car, but I rented one and wanted to give CarPlay a spin for the first time. It was like please enable Siri. I ended up doing it, but became very annoyed with Siri not long after I brought the car back. Would definitely be an issue for me if I owned the thing instead of renting.

        If you do any car shopping, just ask the dealer if you can try it. Would be a good way to verify if what I’m saying is still true.

        • @Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          22 years ago

          That’s fair! Honestly I just want a Bluetooth connection that doesn’t have a 1-2 second delay. Maybe FLAC support from flash drives.

          My current radio plays MPs from flash drives, but won’t let you CHANGE THE SONG if you’re not stopped. So I use my phone via BT, which has this awful delay when doing anything at all.

          With my last car, I used my beloved Bluetooth to 3.5mm adapter, which connects instantly, has no delay, and sounds magnificent. I would happily do with this car… BUT THE RADIO DOESN’T HAVE A GOT DANG 3.5MM JACK.

          • @djsaskdja@endlesstalk.org
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            12 years ago

            I think the car I rented could do Bluetooth audio without using CarPlay. I don’t remember how good/bad the delay was though.

            • @Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              02 years ago

              Watching video while parked? Impossible.

              Volume down? Enjoy loud.

              Forward? More song. No new song.

              Bad. No delay good.

              • @TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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                -22 years ago

                The only thing here that reads as English is the video use case. If I ever watched a video in my car I’d identify. But I don’t and may never do that.

                • @Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  02 years ago

                  It’s ANNOYING when I change a track foward or turn down the volume for any reason and it DOESN’T DO THE THING for a while.

                  Is that really so difficult for you to grok?

                  Do you need it translated better?

                  It’s annoying because I have a device that DOESN’T DO THAT but I cannot plug it in as my car doesn’t have a standard 3.5mm jack or a way to plug an adopter in.

                  I don’t watch videos in my car, except when I’m waiting for someone to go to my car and I’m already in my car.

    • @thesohoriots@lemmy.world
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      32 years ago

      I am also reasonably sure — not 100%, but reasonably — that Siri has something to do with the transcription process for visual voicemail.

    • @waitmarks@lemmy.world
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      92 years ago

      not only that, they also sell smart speakers whose only interaction is with siri. Shutting down siri would turn those $300 speakers into paper weights. this article is a really bad take.

  • @Mereo@lemmy.ca
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    32 years ago

    Not the same thing. Even though Siri is not great, I still use it for basic tasks.

  • FireWire400
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    2 years ago

    I think most people saw that coming, Microsoft effectively sealed Cortana’s fate when they relegated it to a standalone app

  • @rockrit@lemm.ee
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    42 years ago

    I’m kinda glad it’s over. Cortana killed the very useful voice commands on Xbox (alongside the size and price of the Kinect).

    Instead of “Xbox On” you had to actually instruct Cortana to turn it on. The same for the quick screenshot or changing the channel on TV or whatever. It was so good, my whole family was using it and this was in 2014ish when voice control was still fairly new. Cortana ruined all of that for a virtual assistant that barely worked and made Siri look like AI.