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The Wire… great show to watch.
It’s a discipline.
People that don’t want their location triangulated from cell phone towers.
Hezbolah, apparently.
Not anymore.
I saw something where they gave their kid a pager instead of a phone so they could still be told when to come home but couldn’t waste time fucking about online.
I thought that might actually be pretty effective except for the fact that the kid could easily just ignore your pages.
Although there are dumb phones out there
I think I’d like a 2-way pager these days. They were a little ahead of their time because me and most people preferred phone calls to sending text messages but that’s obviously flipped hard over the last decade. I straight up groan when someone has the audacity to call me now lol
They’re called phones.
They offer text messaging as well yeah, but simpler devices are nice. I use my smartphone most when I’m at work, bored in the break from (like right now) but outside of that I just usually have better things to do. I often leave my phone at home in favor of my smart watch which does a lot less but still has my music on it and a way for the wife to contact me which are the 2 main things I value. I’m just saying that even it’s not for the majority, 2 way pagers would likely have a place in the market. There’s a whole group of people these days that love shopping for dumb phones to cut distractions out of their days.
Doctors
Israel could have taken out entire hospital staffs with this “technique”. Hope they remain human and don’t.
Seems unlikely considering only pagers belonging to Hezbollah had the explosives added.
Source?
It’s been widely reported, here’s a reuters source.
There isn’t one, because this is objectively not true.
There are many sources because it’s been widely reported. Here’s one: reuters.
Hezbollah, the de facto government of large parts of Lebanon, ordered the pagers and widely distributed them. Many of them went to civilians for legitimate purposes. It’s unreasonable to suggest that these are fair targets because they were briefly in Hezbollah’s control at some point along the chain.
widely distributed them. Many of them went to civilians for legitimate purposes.
Source?
Source?
Ive provided one in another comment.
Multiple news articles are saying this was a production level attack, on devices that were specifically ordered by Hesbollah.
A lot of the pager victims were civilian, and calling zionists “human” when a decades-long war has long since surpassed the genocide threshold is insulting.
Not defending arab extremists either in case your us/them mentality couldn’t tell and no, not all Palestinians are terrorists.
They (Israeli government) have murdered thousands of innocent men, women and children already without any remorse. Destroyed the entirety of Gaza.
What makes you think the Israeli government has any heart, sympathy or feelings at all?
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Its crazy how all those zero years old terrorists were operating. All in their cribs and their parent’s arms and shit. Absolutely despicable. Glad theres a list 14 pages long of just zero years old dead terrorists.
^ This is how you sound, like a cunt.
What kinds of “heroes” and “freedom fighters” hide in schools and hospitals and use innocent people as human shields?
Parroting the Zionist line doesn’t make for a decent discussion.
You’re absolutely correct. I have a shit take here
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Makes sense. How come NATO doesn’t train Ukrainian soldiers to hide inside schools in hospitals when fighting against Russians back in the early days of the invasion? How come US military doesn’t train to hide inside schools and hospitals when fighting other insurgents?
The kind that are left after the smart leader-y ones get shot or blown up.
Makes a lot of sense now.
Israel actually use palestinians as human shield
Please elaborate.
You some champion of missing the point?
Bruh, you’re literally defending a country who just made a bunch of people unwitting suicide bombers in a foreign country and injured thousands for political purposes. This is terrorism
Boo hoo poor terrorists got blown up
Your name and comment just screams ‘’troll’’ but for the sake of it, I will respond and then block you since you got nothing good to comment anyway.
Your particular comment claims that all Palestinian, Iranian (and in general Arabian) lives are terrorists which is immensely wrong and a Zionistic view. Secondly, what do you consider a terrorist? Because if we look how Israel as a state was made and what atrocities they’ve done since 1948 up until 2024 (ongoing). We could very well consider Israel a terroristic state.
Now about the pagers that have been purposefully exploded by the Israeli state (government). It’s widely known that also innocent people (non-Hezbollah) have been wounded and murdered because of Israel’s terroristic action;
- How Israel Built a Modern-Day Trojan Horse: Exploding Pagers From the article:
Mohammed Awada, 52, and his son were driving by one man whose pager exploded, he said. “My son went crazy and started to scream when he saw the man’s hand flying away from him,” he said.
By the end of the day, at least a dozen people were dead and more than 2,700 were wounded, many of them maimed. And the following day, 20 more people were killed and hundreds wounded when walkie-talkies in Lebanon also began mysteriously exploding. Some of the dead and wounded were Hezbollah members, but others were not; four of the dead were children.
- Israel Blamed as Pager Explosions in Lebanon Kill 12 & Injure 2,800; Hezbollah Vows to Respond From the article:
Individual explosions occurred in supermarkets, cafes, houses and in other public places. Many of the injuries were sustained by civilians who were not carrying the pagers themselves, including at least two children who died from their wounds.
- Second Wave of Blasts Hits Lebanon as Hand-Held Radios Explode From the article:
One of the explosions happened at an outdoor funeral in Beirut’s southern suburbs, where thousands had gathered to mourn two Hezbollah fighters, a paramedic and a 12-year-old boy killed in the pager blasts.
“I saw stuff today that you can only see in movies,” said Hussein Awada, 54, recounting how he watched as a man attempting to clear the road for ambulances in Beirut was gravely injured when his hand-held radio exploded.
“It took seconds — the thing just blew up in his hands,” Mr. Awada said. “Maybe tomorrow lighters will explode, too. If you want to light a cigarette, it will just explode in your hand.”
Fires engulfed at least 60 homes and shops, and dozens of cars and motorcycles, including in the Bekaa Valley and the southern suburbs of Beirut, said the Lebanese Civil Defense, an emergency rescue organization. Both areas are known as Hezbollah strongholds. Ambulances clogged the roads, and some hospitals in southern Lebanon were swamped with dozens of wounded patients, according to Lebanon’s state-run news agency.
If you want to kill one another, go ahead. But what Israel (government) has done is (once again) a terroristic action. They murdered innocent people along the way without remorse. The pagers went off in cars, shops and such.
I will block you now, MY_ANUS_IS_BLEEDING@lemm.ee, since you are definitely not the kind of human I would want to interact with on the internet.
Those devices were bought by Hesbollah, for their soldiers to use, and were connected to a network they operate.
From what I understand about the attack, even if one of these devices made it’s way into the hands of a doctor, it would have to be connected to the Hesbollah network to detonate.
Multiple electronics stores caught on fire. I doubt Mossad found a specific box that said “To: terrorists” on it and only rigged those pagers. They just don’t care about killing civilians.
My understanding of this is those pagers and the network they were connected to were only for use by Hesbollah.
Yet they killed children and were in mobile phone stores.
Not just their soldiers, civilian members of the organisation were also using them.
Bold of you to call them soldiers. For the Israel state or, I hope, government, they are all active/inactive terrorists. Yeah, 10 year olds, too.
I called them soldiers because that is the terminology the person I was replying to used.
Don’t worry, that wasn’t the point. I hope you didn’t feel instigated by my comment. It wasn’t my intention.
Beeper king ftw
If anyone sees a salamander, it’s Liz’s.
In the HAM Radio world we use them. But we also use our own infrastructure. I have mine set to let me know when something happens that needs my attention asap. Only works around my stuff or other HAMs that have stuff tied into our system. So not useful outside narrow circumstances.
Who still uses pagers?
Iran’s ambassador to Lebanon (injured in pager explosion), apparently!
He was probably meeting with someone who had one, being an ambassador and all.
Guests at restaurants where you get a device that beeps when your food is ready. Guess what? That’s a pager.
So…essentially just because they’re cheap?
I can see maybe businesses that don’t want/need to buy full-blown smartphones for their employees. These things probably cost $50? vs. $700 for a smartphone.
There are definitely cheaper smartphones than that too.
Useful ones?
Of course? They have the same functionality. A cheap one can be under $100 and works just fine.
Cellular signals have a hard time penetrating dense concrete buildings and underground structures. That’s why doctors still use them, even in the States.
Doctors that work in hospital bunkers? Do pagers not use cellular signals?
Hospitals are practically faraday cages, it can be hard to get a signal in large hospitals.
But a text message that amounts to just a few bits can usually sneak through without much delay.
I was thinking it had more to do with the use of the 900MHz band which has advantages in the penetration of certain materials compared to higher frequencies but I’m not an expert.
I don’t know why people still using pagers this day. Smartphones exist to replace that, even if you afraid to use smartphones because NSA/FBI/CIA/KGB tracking you could use dumb phone tho…
Even dumb phone can achieve so many things compared to pagerIt’s because they are simpler devices which are much less infrastructure dependent, and also less power hungry. A single battery charge in a pager will last you much longer than a single battery charge on a smartphone.
Also due to their lower infrastructure requirements they can function even if cellular networks are not functioning, at all or optimally.
if cellular networks are not functioning
What networks do they use then?
they can function even if cellular networks are not functioning, at all or optimally.
When I worked for a cell company, our on-call technicians carried a pager that was on a different company’s network.
Maybe you could read the article and learn something:
But the tiny electronic devices remain a vital means of communication in some areas - such as health care and emergency services, thanks to their durability and long battery life.
“It’s the cheapest and most efficient way to communicate to a large number of people about messages that don’t need responses,” said a senior surgeon at a major U.K. hospital, adding that pagers are commonly used by doctors and nurses across the country’s National Health Service (NHS). “It’s used to tell people where to go, when, and what for.”
Smartphones do a lot of things that might not be needed (look into how many different sensors they have). Sometimes a person doesn’t have access to a charger or time to charge a device and running out of battery could mean someone dies.
To add to your point regarding additional functions inherent in smartphones: pagers do one thing. They’re relatively simple devices. Simplicity means that there are fewer things that can cause the device to function incorrectly or fail to function altogether. In hospital communications use-cases, this is a huge benefit.
Additionally, pagers are relatively inexpensive. Therefore, it’s much more effective to have multiple spares available for distribution compared to smartphones. If a pager is inoperable, it can quickly be swapped out with a backup while the original is repaired or replaced. Smartphones do not carry that benefit.
The irony is unreal
People that work on-call do this, especially in tech or security.
I’m considering making the switch because my paging calls are from a random set of phone numbers, so I cannot attach a specific ringtone to them. After a few horrible pages, you start to associate your phone going off as a world-ending experience, when it’s just your wife calling to ask if you want her to pick something up for you from the shop. A separate device that disassociates my phone from pain would be nice.
Could you not just change the ring tones of your contacts to something else and then have all unknown callers use the bad time ring tone?
A separate device that disassociates my phone from pain would be nice.
Like a work phone?
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Alternative thought, what about dual sims? Could you not assign a ringtone to a specific sim, and use that sims phone number only for work?
This along with a work profile works just fine
Barring that, something like a Google Voice number would work, too.
