Parmigiano-Reggiano makers are putting edible microchips the size of a grain of sand into their 90-pound cheese wheels to combat counterfeiters::Italian Parmigiano-Reggiano makers are using microchips to verify the authenticity of their products and thwart scammers.
The chips use blockchain technology and trace the wheel of cheese back to where the milk that was used came from.
Cryptobros, Unite! We finally found a way for blockchain tech to be relevant for more than just ransomware! We authenticate cheese!
Someone’s gonna make a ton of money on CheeseCoin
Blockchain is also good for solving the Ship of Theseus problem. You can encode the entire history of the object into the object.
Blockchain has many cool uses and none of them are currency.
I mean, the ship of Theseus isn’t a problem, nor is there a solution, but I get the joke anyway :)
There was a joke in there?
There was a joke in there?
I thought there must be, otherwise it would be a deep misunderstanding of what the ship of Theseus is
I don’t know, can you make a JPEG of the cheese wheel and then put the hyperlink on the blockchain? Maybe make it so I can import the cheese in a shitty MMO that nobody actually wants to play?
It probably is, for ants
Blockchain =/= crypto
Crypto uses blockchain, but blockchain is just a different type of database that generally tracks data through a decentralized network. It has a lot of real uses beyond crypto like identity verification, transcript/records management management, and iot data sharing. It’s nothing that can’t be done in a centralized manner, it’s just a different way of going about it that, in some cases, is much more secure and/or much more easily accessible.
It’s nothing that can’t be done in a centralized manner,
and thats the main problem with basically all blockchain related solutions, theres pretty much always a centralized alternative thats more efficient
and much more… centralized? But let’s also just ignore the part where it’s described as generally more secure as well.
and much more… centralized?
it being centralized dosent mean its bad. theres also the fact that many processes are centralized by the nature of how they work.
it’s described as generally more secure as well.
why would that be?
The cheese makers are not concerned about decentralization. Presumably they trust themselves, because they are the only ones trusted to write to the database. If they are the only ones allowed to put something on the chain, it’s a central database, regardless of how many computers/places they run it on.
Blockchain is not magically more secure than any other equivalent cryptographic solution.
Most commercial non-crypto blockchains I’ve seen only have a couple of nodes connected, usually held by a single entity. In these cases it’s no less centralised than any alternative write-only DB.
What corporation which validates their supply chain for authenticity is not already centralized? It literally makes no sense when the official manufacturer and logistics partners are all known, at that point you may at best want “transparency logs” but not blockchains. They’re not even intended to stay authenticated on a second hand market, so there’s no need to be able to keep tracking their movements after first sale
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if people who is eating them cant tell the difference than whats the point
Probably to protect the “brand” at places that actually care about advertising what kind of cheese they have
You really don’t want to buy counterfeit food.
One of the biggest reasons for avoiding counterfeit food is the higher risk of contaminants.
Semiconductors are a pretty serious contaminant.
Could you please elaborate on that
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My friend, it’s food. You put into your body. Do you really need to ask why it’s a huge breach of trust?
But putting microchips in your body is ok? Seems to me the counterfeit cheese is now better for me.
I see your point, but both wheels are questionable in different ways.
Making your own product worse to own the counterfeiters.
Its what the gaming and film industry have done for decades
This is like complaining that they changed the ink to print the labels with.
I would rather buy the cointerfeit version of this cheese if that comes without microchips
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They make counterfeit Rolex so good, you need an expert and a microscope to tell the difference. Why not cheese.
It’s almost like luxury goods are a scam and purely for bragging rights of having the brand, and not that the actual object is unique or the best!
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The next time you dig into a bowl of pasta with freshly grated parmesan, you could accidentally be eating a microchip.
That’s because makers of Parmigiano-Reggiano are implanting microchips into the casings of their 90-pound cheese wheels as the latest move to ward off counterfeiters, The Wall Street Journal reported.
Parmigiano-Reggiano must be made in a particular area of northern Italy’s Emilia Romagna region and with specific production standards and techniques.
The microchip can then be scanned to pull up a unique serial ID that buyers can use to ensure they’ve got the real thing.
“We keep fighting with new methods,” Alberto Pecorari, whose job is to protect the product’s authenticity for a group that represents Parmigiano makers, told the Journal.
Parmigiano-Reggiano is among the many food products that are formally protected in the European Union, including Champagne from France and Feta from Greece.
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My Parmesan cheese comes from Wisconsin and I think it’s good.
The more local cheese makers the better, as long as it does not call itself Parmigiano-Reggiano.
Maybe I’m a picker eater, but I think I’d rather have an inauthentic product than eating a microchip.
Hey, don’t knock it till you try it
You won’t be eating any, read again.
I know. There’s an answer above where I say that. Writing a jokey comment doesn’t mean you haven’t read it.
Well then the right thing to do would be to edit your misinformation-spreading comment in this thread, don’t you think?
I’m not reading ALL of your comments
Haha no. Cause I read the article before I posted my comment. I’m not spreading misinformation.
The misinformation is in the title of the article. Report the article instead of going after someone who read it, and is obviously not talking about the article seriously.
It’s funny though when someone says read the article doesn’t read the one of the top tree of comments they are replying to where I explicitly say it’s a non issue 10 hours before your comment.
Maybe you want to edit your comment.
We are definitely not sorting comments by the same criterion, then.
Your other comment was nowhere to be seen 😉
Poe’s law strikes again
You wouldn’t even notice.
I would!
points RFID scanner in their general direction
I’m both cases.
as other people pointed out, is a sticker on the outside, on the hard part.
unless you are very hungry and have good teeth, you will not eat it.
yet, since is applied on edible product, it needs to be edible.
What if the inauthentic product is made by my mate dodgy Dave who got a load of cheap milk and some dirty old metalwork, it’s ok he flushed a load of industrial cleaner through them and it’s good stuff they use it to clean engines at his brother’s garage…
You’d be far better off not buying a prestige product and getting a good quality cheese from a reputable manufacturer at a price that doesn’t include a huge markup due to perceived historic significance
As long as Dodgy Dave passed his mandatory FDA inspections I’d eat his cheese.
You think the big brands don’t use industrial cleaner? LOL
But the point is if the labels are fake you don’t know if they got inspected, it’s organized crime gangs running it and they’re not really known for being sticklers for the law…
The cleaning products and procedures are heavily regulated in food production because when they’re not people cut corners and use cheaper things without regard for long-term health effects
Now you’re worried about counterfeit Dodgy Dave cheese? Where are you buying your cheese‽
There was a HUGE scandal in the UK over rotten horse meat getting mixed into basically everything. This was part of the whole Ikea horse meat story from years ago.
It’s a supply chain issue, criminal gangs fake paperwork and all that stuff hence the cheese people going for more extreme security measures - you could be eating Dave’s cheese in an expensive restaurant, as far as they know it’s ligit but the importer or supplier duped them
I mean I was being a little jocular in my comment (since this tracker is on the outside) it doesn’t really matter.
But by preferring “inauthentic” I was thinking something like “Greek style cheese” which is just feta but made outside of Greece or sparking wine for champagne. So food standards still apply.
But yeah, they are trying to stop fraudulent claims.
The conspiracy theorists are going to run wild with this one.
That’s because makers of Parmigiano-Reggiano are implanting microchips into the casings of their 90-pound cheese wheels as the latest move to ward off counterfeiters, The Wall Street Journal reported.
If it’s just going in the casings, then it wouldn’t be eaten I guess?
They don’t read the article though so as far as they’re concerned this proves jet fuel can’t melt 5G COVID
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Except for counterfeiters. They eat the whole thing to make sure their copies are accurate but now we can track their poops. I’m telling you, Mario, this thing is genius!
That’s why he was a plumber, to track our poop
I’m just picturing him listening to the pipes with a stethoscope
Dr Mario says you haven’t eaten enough fiber
Are we not all chipped anyways through the civic vaccine? /s
Thankfully countries voted to avoid that during the meeting of the Honda Accords.
I wonder how close they are to realm parmesan, those counterfeited cheeses.
Parmigiano Reggiano is truly something special.
There exist (cheaper) cheeses made in a similar style, but no serious manufacturer will call it Parmigiano Reggiano, or even Parmesan. Usually have their own brand.
Or you can make your own https://youtu.be/s1k1w7SnNEY
Worth noting that they use microchips because blind taste tests, chemical analysis, and any other comparison demonstrates that copies are indistinguishable - if you buy prestige food products you’re almost certainly just wasting money
Not necessarily. The insane level of protection applied by the original is the motivation to produce such good copies. Otherwise the copies would be just a generic “hard cheese”.
DOP/AOP regulations imo produce more benefit than harm, even by motivating copycats
I think the problem is more that they don’t want to have to do those things on every single wheel, the microchips make identification easier. Also worth noting that many things can be physically and/or chemically identical but still have different value due to the way it was produced, some things that come to mind are power and hydrogen. They can both be produced in many ways, with some in more environmentally friendly ways than others, and the consumer may care about that.
If I run low on health and have to eat several dozen cheese wheels, will the authentic DRM ones provide a greater HP boost compared to the generic cheese wheels?
Actually an “HP boost” refers to using fake Hewlett-Packard ink cartridges that circumvent their ink-jet printer DRM. 😁
For fucks sake… This is literally about an RFID sticker that is put on the outside of whole cheese wheels.
So unless you buy whole 40kg wheel and then eat it with the rind… you are not eating any.
And also fuck that article for even mentioning that.
You seems to be someone that don’t eat parmesan cheese.
That makes it sound like the “edible” aspect of this is just an anti idiot feature. *Or just “printed” on it.
Either way, pointless article.
I believe regulations require that everything you put in or on food is technically editable. Like the paper stickers on bread or produce. They are disgusting, but if you or your child accidentally eats them, they are fine.
So I can eat the plastic wrappers?
Once?
You can probably get away with it more than once, after all there was that one person who was addicted to eating plastic. I will say it definitely isn’t good for you to do it, so I definitely wouldn’t recommend it.
I did eat those chicken wrappers accidentally at a buffet.
Those tiktokers eating the plastic around fruit chews are vindicated!
Alex Jones will yell about the headline and say Soros is microchipping food and if you eat cheese the 5g vaccine will do a false flag and turn the frogs even gayer.
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You’re completely right, but it’s also highlighted when people on the internet discuss things they know nothing about but decide to become very sarcastic against “the other side.”
smug superiority indeed. many examples in this very thread.
Some recipes use the rind too, check this other comment here…
unless you buy whole 40kg wheel and then eat it with the rind
Haha no of course not…
lol right? I would never lol, that would be like, too much? Would it be too much? Honestly we may never know
It would probably last you a decade even if you really eat a lot of parmesan
You severely underestimate my cheese eating ability
I seriously love parmesan. I always buy it fresh and grate it myself. I know pretty well how much cheese is reasonable to eat in a sitting. 100g is insanely much for one serving, but you could distribute it over the whole day. If you eat 100g of parmesan each day, 1kg will be gone after 10 days. That means eating 40kg takes 400 days, or a bit longer than a year.
Being a bit more realistic easily allows you to stretch that wheel of parmesan over the span of a decade, even if you seriously love the stuff.
I’m perfectly aware that you’re not being entirely serious but I just can’t let it stand like that.
shifty eyes Yes, 100 grams is quite a lot. Yes. Indeed. Quite right.
When I was a kid we’d grate 200g for 4 people. I take a bit less nowadays than what I would get as a kid but some people still look at me funny. I think 20-30g is a regular serving.
Some people add the rind to broths.
If your soup or sauce sparks a little bit next time, you’ll know, lol.
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https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=parmesan+rind+uses&ia=web
From the top result (Treehugger):
- Throw them into tomato sauce when cooking. They’ll impart some flavor. Pull them out and discard when the sauce is done cooking.
- Place them in a jar, pour olive oil over them (perhaps add some garlic cloves, too – but if you add garlic, make sure to keep the oil refrigerated) and make parmesan-infused olive oil. Great for dipping bread into.
- Throw them into bean soups or minestrone. Discard the rinds before serving.
- Throw them into the pot when you’re making stock.
- Add to stew. Remove rinds before serving.
- Use them to flavor steamed artichokes. Add some chicken broth, onion and lemon juice and a cheese rind or two, and it’s a delicious broth!
- Put a rind in the pot when you’re cooking risotto or other rice. Remove the rind before serving.
- Make a parmesan broth for cheese-filled pastas like ravioli. You can try the Bitchincamero’s recipe for ricotta & pea ravioli in parmesan broth or just use the recipe for inspiration for your own pasta in Parmesan broth.
- Try The Novice Chef’s Panera-inspired recipe for tomato, cheese and bread Soup.
- If the rind is pure cheese (with no waxy coating), you can grill the rind until it becomes soft and chewy, put it on a piece of crusty bread, and eat.
Now I want to try it… 🤤
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So to combat fake cheese, real cheese makers change their cheese and make them crunchier? 🤔