• @WeebLife@lemmy.world
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    272 months ago

    I’ve been looking at doing a new pc build but wanted to wait for the new GPUs coming out. Looks like I should just my new build before prices are stupid.

        • @interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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          22 months ago

          But that would be low!
          And really the president doesn’t have the power to set prices. Trump can’t magically make eggs cheaper! And so on. Chatgpt what is the best open source open hardware guillotine plans?

          • @Sturgist@lemmy.ca
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            22 months ago

            He doesn’t have the ability to directly set prices, no. He could massively subsidise things he wants to be cheaper. Do you think that’s going to happen though?

              • @Sturgist@lemmy.ca
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                22 months ago

                I’m sorry, I’m not sure I’m following your train of thought…

                Are there currently egg shortages? Subsidising something doesn’t mean there’s less of it, means the government pays someone in the production stream to keep prices low. Like what happens with gasoline just about everywhere.

                • @interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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                  01 month ago

                  The official story is they killed 100 nillion chicken due to bird flu. This caused a shortage of eggs, the shortage caused the price to raise until it was so high they became unaffordable to some people.

  • @SolidShake@lemmy.world
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    192 months ago

    Trump is basically a sad fat kid in a classroom that just cries and screams when shit doesn’t go his way and then ruins everything for everyone else.

  • @surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    92 months ago

    And they’re not even trying to create American jobs with this crap. The CHIPS Act is paired with a “chipmaker’s visa,” which intends to import cheap labor from Taiwan to work the US chip factories.

      • @surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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        52 months ago

        You’re not wrong, but the Dems are in on this, too. They were pushing the same chipmaker’s visa when they had the reigns, so I wouldn’t count on them helping.

        • @interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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          31 month ago

          They are also billionaire’s stooges. They’re just the “good cop” part of the arrangement. When we politely accept their domination rather than rebelliously accept their domination. Those are the only two choices.

  • @BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world
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    282 months ago

    I don’t get the goal here. It’s not just that existing fabs are in Taiwan, I thought it was the knowledge was as well.

    I was under the impression that we’d built a couple of fabs here and they’re not productive due to a knowledge deficit. Maybe I’m uninformed.

    It seems, to my uninformed self, that if we impose tariffs we’d be strengthening Taiwan/China relations. Wouldn’t China still serve as a middle man?

    I don’t see us manufacturing when the dollar is so high relative to foreign currency; add in the lack of knowledge and facilities and I’m not sure what you get.

    • @kandoh@reddthat.com
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      252 months ago

      I truly believe these are his way of soliciting bribes from foreign and domestic businesses.

      They’re going to have to pay him to get around them.

  • @Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world
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    82 months ago

    Trump is going to use Tariffs to try to offset making larger tax cuts for the wealthy.

    It’s better that he does this now so that we have a solid recent example to point to of how this will impact what we pay for goods.

    Never mind we have 100 years of data backing this up, people are idiots and won’t recognize the treat until it hurts them directly.

    • @olympicyes@lemmy.world
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      32 months ago

      In a way I’m glad he’s doing this. He’s going to inflect so much pain that he loses in a landslide in four or 8 years or whatever. If income tax rates are 0, then a new administration would be able to set them as high as they want without consideration of trying to increase them by 2 percent or whatever they do now.

      • @Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world
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        21 month ago

        I agree I’d rather Trump shit the bed hard and early so we can contain the damage and show the public at large what his policies will really do to them.

        But Tariffs will never be enough to offset income tax completely. I think he is going to use Tariffs to offset renewing his tax cuts for the wealthy. There are a good number of house republicans who will not go along with tax cuts if it increases the deficit. Revenue from tariffs would give him enough cover to placate those Republicans while directly pushing the cost onto US consumers who are primarily lower and middle classes.

        Even after 4 years when he is out of office and the next administration reduces those tariffs and goes back to a progressive tax system. Even reducing those tariffs then will never bring prices down. Companies will never pass those savings entirely to the consumer they will pocket the money and everyone else will be screwed.

        • @olympicyes@lemmy.world
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          31 month ago

          The grift is obvious for anyone paying attention but a lot of his base doesn’t realize that they pay almost no tax because of credits and deductions. Tariffs will hit the working class hard.

    • @theoretiker@discuss.tchncs.de
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      12 months ago

      To be fair, we mostly have examples of how free trade reduces prices. But this reduction in prices usually wasn’t instantaneous and perceivable by ordinary folks. Because corporations wouldn’t hand out the savings to consumers until the very slow market force of competition forced them to. Tariffs will make everything more expensive and even if they are eventually culled, stuff will not become suddenly cheap again.

      • @Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world
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        22 months ago

        I agree, I doubt very much that price savings for any reduction in Tariffs will be passed onto the consumer. However any increase in Tariffs will immediately be felt.

        I’d rather see an increase in a single sector such as microchips to show the public the costs of Trump’s plan in real modern dollars to help build opposition. Than wait until he pushes an across the board Tariff. Which would likely result in a stagflation for the population at large.

  • @mriguy@lemmy.world
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    21 month ago

    Gosh Tim. How is that million dollar personal contribution directly into Trump’s pocket to Trump’s inauguration fund working out for you?

  • @SuperSynthia@lemmy.world
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    42 months ago

    I say this not to be reactionary or pro trump.

    Is there no way to use lesser nodes for wider applications? While there are processes that need as much speed as possible, I feel like what gives Taiwan semiconducting industries such great business is the fact that code optimization isn’t as cost effective as the latest and greatest chips.

    I HOPE these tariffs inspire better, more secure code to make less efficient chips more viable. Like a lemon to lemonade situation.

    • @dragontamer@lemmy.world
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      If you optimize code, it will still run faster if the CPU or GPU is 30% faster.

      If you make 50% speed improvements with code, you get 65% improvement with code+hardware upgrades. The hardware multiplies your software gains.

      • @kibiz0r@midwest.social
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        102 months ago

        Also, half of the gains in recent years have been in energy efficiency, not just speed.

        So if the idea is to do more with less, you don’t wanna rely on old power-hungry designs.

  • @thejml@lemm.ee
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    1332 months ago

    He emphasized that the proposed tariffs would leave companies with no choice but to invest in domestic production facilities to avoid high taxes.

    No choice except the obvious: Pass the cost of the Tax into the customer because there’s no way they’re going to spend billions to stand up a US fab plant anytime soon.

    • @RangerJosey@lemmy.ml
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      52 months ago

      That’s just how tariffs work. They’re not a weapon against enemy nations. They’re a tax on Americans.

      And nobody is going to bring production back to this fascist slave pen of a country.

    • @schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business
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      282 months ago

      No choice except the obvious: Pass the cost of the Tax into the customer because there’s no way they’re going to spend billions to stand up a US fab plant anytime soon.

      TSMC is standing up fabs in the US, mostly because we’re bribing them to do so.

      The problem is that it takes literal years to build high tech manufacturing and isn’t something you can yank out of your ass to satisfy some idiot politician.

      • @cyd@lemmy.world
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        372 months ago

        By Taiwanese law, TSMC isn’t allowed to move cutting edge processes to its US plant. The overseas operations have to be at least one gen behind.

        From a strategic point of view, it makes sense for the Taiwan government to do this. They don’t want the US to suck them dry then cut a deal with the mainland.

        • @schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business
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          162 months ago

          I mean, it’s economic blackmail: we won’t build the good shit anywhere else, so if you don’t protect us, you get nothing.

          Effective, but only if you’re dealing with someone who is rational, and, well, have you seen the brain-worm oligarchs in charge of the US lately?

          • @Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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            42 months ago

            For Taiwan, it’s a matter of survival, plain and simple. They’re not going to give up their monopoly because without it they cease to exist. It does not matter how irrational the person they’re dealing with is, because for them this is life and death, literally. TSMC is the single biggest national security asset they have.