I think inevitably Reddit’s utter collapse will be power mods causing intense drama as well the mods who are actually capable of curating content properly having left. I was surprised no hate subs spawned from the migration away from reddit, but I realized something. The people who would likely moderate hate subs now moderate the mainstream subs. Shit is going to hit the fan.
Hah, so Reddit will force the crybabies to grow up or die trying, win-win!
I think the next time the owners do something stupid there will be a similar exodus, and there will already be larger alternative communities available than there were last time and more people will leave and stay left. I think it could also happen the same way more than twice.
Agreed, I think Reddit is going to die in fits and bursts and the fediverse will continue to build momentum with each wave. I think it’s arguable that we’re already starting to see this shift happen with Twitter and Mastodon. A behemoth like Reddit was never going to die overnight, but the users who really care have left or will leave soon. And it’s those users who made Reddit what it was, not its scale imo.
the best of the best are slowly decamping one by one. I see old communities on here all the time
That’s what happened with twitter and mastodon. People will come in waves.
I know it’s bad when the front page is majority popular posts from the last 10 years and nothing new
I don’t think so. The migration to Lemmy was minuscule. It’s still huge, like very huge, but now that I use Lemmy more than Reddit, differences are obvious. Reddit is so massive that it has become a wrestling arena, Lemmy on the other side, is a more quiet place where civilized dialogue is above anything else. It’s a matter of tastes, but I feel better here.
We need an article summary bot up in here man. I got walled off after a few paragraphs and it wanted my email to store in their database😅
Can’t we just use the one we had on reddit? Just change the API calls from Reddit to Lemmy.
Use my email:
😂 thanks for the chuckle
Reading mode defeats that a lot of the time if your browser supports it
I’ve come up with the following rules for my own relationship with Reddit.
- I will avoid posting on Reddit.
- If I do post on Reddit, I must make a similar post on another forum, maybe Lemmy, maybe somewhere else.
Number 2 is important because it helps other small communities grow.
It’s not a problem if a lot of people post on one forum, but it is a problem if a lot of people post only on one forum. I wont allow myself to post only on Reddit.
That said, I haven’t posted on Reddit since June.
My rule is “don’t post on Reddit unless it’s giving a reason to delete it”
Deleted my 10 year account a few months ago. Haven’t looked back. Once in a while my google searches will point me to some reddit thread, and I’ll check it out, but I have logged in for the last time.
Same story here. Soon as they fucked around with Apollo I grabbed my towel and haven’t looked back. At this point my only interest is morbid curiosity about how bad it’ll get.
I think the thing that happened to digg is happening to reddit. It’s not surprising.
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Its* own grave.
*dugg its own grave.
What’s this about Dig Dug?
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But really, where else can you go to read a bunch of eight year old tweets?
Tumblr. Also, 8 year old Reddit posts… You can actually find anything old in Tumblr… and vampire role play.
This is two months old and a report about the exodus that’s already happened.
Reddit didn’t die, it probably won’t anytime soon.
Facebook never “died”, but no one goes there anymore either. Reddit will be the same.
Facebook is just being treated as a place you glance into to see how everyone you know is doing. Nobody really uses it for anything beyond that.
And then you can’t even do that because Zuck filled the feed with 99% ads and “recommended” groups. Sure, there’s a friend’s feed now, but it doesn’t load 95% of the time. Facebook isn’t dead because people didn’t like the site, Facebook is dead because Zuckerfuck drove a spike through its heart and then lit the corpse on fire after dousing it with gasoline.
What is Facebook these days? My grandma spends all day on it, she hardly speaks…just swiping…when I sneak a peek, it’s just chain-mail-like bullshit one after the other with a few disguised ads for things she can’t afford in between…ugh :vomit:
lol, exactly. that is literally reddit for me now as well
Yea, I checked worldnews today: there are these bot-like irrelevant comments on major subs, small subs abandoned…askhistorians is a little slow…maybe people are just on holiday having fun and such :D, is instagram full of holiday bragging?
It’s a haven for some older gen x and boomers. That was peak social media for them and that’s where they keep in touch mostly.
I remember describing to my mom what Facebook was becoming back in like 2013/14 and she goes “Huh, sounds like what happened with email.”
The service went from useful communication to social media style chain forwarding nonsense pretty quickly, and they went the same way with FB.
I don’t know about that, email is still great at what it does. It’s less that it died and more that people moved on to more real-time communication that fit their needs better, with email still being used for what it is actually good for.
Oh absolutely, it’s still highly used in a professional environment. I just feel like personal email went through the same thing and now that social media exists it’s just another way to communicate again.
E-mail is never going to lose relevance. It is too heavily used for it to go away. It’s used to register to many, many places online.
More than that, it’s THE communication method for businesses.
And universities. Email is the digital version of the memorandum, which is an essential tool for any large organization.
I never said it was, just that communication technology all get used for the same time wasting shit until the next thing comes along to replace it.
And still email is not dead yet! I hope it’s starting to become clear to people that protocols last much longer than platforms, even if platforms look like they can test new things faster.
Fuck yeah email!
Good thing we got that sorted in the early stages of internet before corporations got their hands on it. Otherwise we’d have to create separate accounts to send and receive emails from gmail, outlook, and yahoo.
When I go to the poker machine hall, it’s the same. Keep pressing the button waiting for that all-too-elusive ‘win’ to come around.
Isn’t Digg still around? It will exist forever probably, but it is definitely a husk of its former self.
Digg fully died, but the name was brought back for a curated news portal years later.
About as long as a seagull pecking away at a whale carcass. It certainly didn’t help them but it would take Musk level of stupid to end them.
Dying or not, their leadership made clear the plan is full steam towards enshittification and monetization, so leaving early is for the best.
Malls are still around in some places too, but nothing in there is worth going to. Maybe Mall of America if you want to chance getting stabbed or shot, other than that they’re either glorified office space or entirely abandoned. But, like reddit, they’re still technically there.
That’s just a horrible analogy. Yes malls are basically dead but still technically there. Reddit is just as popular and active as it has ever been. Sure some people, like us, left. The vast majority stayed.
The ‘mass exodus’ never happened. The entirety of lemmy put together is the size of a small niche sub barely anyone actually knows about.
Yeah it is not a good analogy because when it came to malls something more convenient and easier for everyone to use became a better option with the rise in internet shopping. It’s not like malls made people angry and people left it for something that wasn’t as convenient to use.
People who moved to the fediverse aren’t representative of the average user who just wants a community in a niche area of interest to use, and never cared that strongly enough to abandon it. Most do not want to go through the growing pains of trying to grow a new community on a new platform and less content.
Exactly. From the article:
As far as Reddit’s fate is concerned I predict that what will happen to it is the same thing that is happening to Twitter and has already happened to Facebook and frankly, actual shopping malls. The business side of things will churn along divorced from the content which will become ever more generic and culturally irrelevant. The users who stay on Reddit will be of the unadventurous variety, not inclined to make waves or analyze their habits.
The mall pictured in the article, Rolling Acres Mall in Akron OH, was the largest of three indoor shopping malls in the greater Akron area. I don’t know if you’ve ever been to Akron, but we didn’t need three goddamn indoor shopping malls. We’re down to just one now, which seems appropriate.
My city has malls. They are just big buildings for housing an aunties anne’s pretzels, a filthy play area for kids, and any other sucker who is still renting a retail space.
My local mall has churches that rent out the retail space. It’s a weird stort of community center.
Who knows. Could be the new Facebook. Feel like that shit fell off pretty fast. Went from everyone on the planet using it to only your weird uncle pretty quickly.
Reddit has really declined after the blackout, some subs are not even posting anything usefull or just trolling. My home subs on reddit dies out after i scroll past 500, no more new or upvoted content.
No, it isn’t.
These posts are exhaustingly far from the reality of the situation. Please don’t make the fediverse kick the puppy that is your optimistic opinion, OP.
Edit: OP downvoted everyone who disagreed with him.
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/443332/reddit-monthly-visitors/
Their traffic is unaffected. Reddit has never been part of the public conversation, outside of its reused content on blogs and autogenerated YouTube content. It has never had cultural relevance due to its conspicuously self contained nature, despite its size. Shops have closed but are reopening and profits are consistent(ly absent) month to month, the exodus affected little. If I were to amend your title, it would read “Reddit has always been a dying mall.”
You’ve described the situation as dramatically as possible to the crowd most excited to hear it and I’m just tired of hearing “Reddit is dying.” It is exhausting. The article is a great summary of everything I hate about Reddit because it is intended to be.
Reddit has definitely had cultural significance. That’s why AMAs used to happen there so often and it was in the news for months after the Boston Bomber. It’s like 4chan in that it seems super niche but it pops up every now and then in the cultural zeitgeist, sometimes for bad reasons like The Donald leading the charge for a Trump presidency and sometimes for good reasons like the niche hobby subs.
Edit: OP downvoted everyone who disagreed with him.
Sigh. Please OP, we’re not doing that here. Downvotes should be reserved for trolls and the counterproductive. This comment with its snappy “kick the puppy that is your opinion” is not the most productive, but there are downvotes from OP on way more innocuous things, even one comment that agrees reddit is dying but in a different way than the linked article envisions.
Please leave that behavior on reddit.
How do you know what did they vote on?
Dunno about over on lemmy, but on kbin we have an “activity” link on each comment exposing all voters.
Oh wow! Do you also see Lemmy users there?
Vote federation can be a little wonky, but generally, yeah.
@JustinHanagan@kbin.social i think you might have the meaning of “Luddite” backwards https://thenib.com/im-a-luddite/
Lemmy, can we do better? I came here to hang out with a scrappy new community of people excited about cool shit. Instead it’s a bunch of people bitching about Reddit and X. C’mon let’s make this place fun and exciting.
Don’t forget jerking off over Linux
There are plenty of budding communities in the federation. The Reddit and X posts are slowing down, so that is nice. Not so long ago, Lemmy was absolutely flooded by /c/memes, but other activity has started to balance it out. The main problem is that it took years to build some of the niche subs on Reddit so it will take time to get those started again.
An even better sign is that OC NSFW creators are showing up here more and more. Where they go, people follow, no questions asked.
mander.xyz is awesome, if you select by local you only get science posts from communities that are visited and commented on. programming.dev has some good communities too, that probably need some good comments and content so people don’t give up on them.
You need to pick your home instance well to have a good head start, otherwise, you’ll spend every day blocking communities that take up space in you discovery feed when you select by “all”.
Sir, this is a technology sub/comm. It must be filled with articles about social media businesses at all times, or the ancient ones will get hungry.
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At least the mall of Reddit is open 24/7.
That new mom and pop down the road seems to close at random times during the day. 😉
Is lemmy.world really that bad?
Lemmy.ca went out, like, twice in the time I’ve used it.
It is, loads for me about 70% of the time.
Very annoying to use.
What’s making you stay on lemmy.world?
already have an account, don’t want to go through the hassle of transferring it and recreating my subscriptions
There are tools to easily migrate your account now. It’s pretty effortless.
As a .world user, it’s had some instability. Though in general I’d say it has okay uptime for a somewhat startup, volunteer enthusiast run content aggregation & discussion platform.
You can always poke at https://status.lemmy.world to see how things are going 😁
You can use less overpopulated server
The instance I use is ran by a bunch of Unix nerds, so I’d expect them to wear their uptime as a badge of honour. I suspect there’s probably a sweet spot for instance size, where it doesn’t hit the biggest scaling problems, but big enough to justify the ongoing effort, rather than obviously being a one-man shop that will vanish when his cheque to Digital Ocean bounces.
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It’s like a mall where the main entrance is closed for construction, but all the other entrances, including the entrances through different stores, are all open.
It’s more like a mall where the main entrance is being blocked by dipshit reactionaries and trolls picketing in front of it.
I used the construction analogy because they are at least trying to fix the DDOS issues, or at least that’s what I’ve heard.
It’s like Walmart. Open 24/7 but full of shit garbage and shit people.
The Walmarts near me haven’t been open 24/7 since the pandemic. Definitely still full of garbage and shitty people, though.
If Reddit is a mall for ideas, then Lemmy is more like an economy for ideas. Or many malls that are linked by an instant, intergalactic transport system. You know, I’d probably go back to malls if they had that.
Lemmy and kbin are like a street full of small Shops
A nice walkable one!
Hello fellow good street design enjoyer
