Anonymous: Trump is making America weaker and we’ll exploit it. The international hacker community is preparing to strike against U.S. infrastructure and calls for public awareness against incoming fascism

  • Otter
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    1 month ago

    Don’t need to open Twitter to watch it

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI27LEimfYg

    I’m also remembering an IT crowd scene where they argue about which of them is in Anonymous, and I can’t find it now. Does anyone have a link handy? Unless I am misremembering

  • Wren
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    271 month ago

    Aren’t they kind of notorious for empty promises?

    • Semperverus
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      331 month ago

      Its more of a chaos entity. Because anyone can be a part of it with literally no steps other than saying “I am Anonymous”, anyone can say or do anything. As a result, one person or group may claim Anonymous while doing a legitimate hack, while another person who is just a script kiddie won’t ever actually do anything and you get this hot and cold, will they won’t they effect as a result.

    • @Letsdothis@lemmy.world
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      21 month ago

      The actual anonymous group gets things done.

      How easy is it to say Anonymous said this or that? Very.

      I expect this highly political, left leaning anonymous isn’t real. It’s such BS…

  • @AidsKitty@lemmy.world
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    -201 month ago

    If you’re an American praising potential harm to America you should reexamine why you continue being a citizen here. If there are other countries more aligned with your personal morals and values please seek citizenship there.

    • Horrorgasm
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      101 month ago

      Sure, lemme know where you’re dropping the case of cash at so I can afford to GTFO.

    • @Allonzee@lemmy.world
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      31 month ago

      Sorry, you’re stuck with hoards of people our economy has made too poor to get citizenship elsewhere. Shitty country run by selfish oligarchs. 🤷

      • @AidsKitty@lemmy.world
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        -51 month ago

        Our country hasn’t “made them too poor for citizenship elsewhere” as millions still walk hundreds to thousands of miles to get here. Still more opportunity in the USA than anywhere else. Sure we live under an oligarchy but honestly who doesn’t?

    • @ubergeek@lemmy.today
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      111 month ago

      I am, because this government has decided the US constitution just doesn’t matter, and now, we have literal nazis running the government.

      I stand by my people, not the government oppressing them.

  • OBJECTION!
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    41 month ago

    Anytime I see something about “Anonymous” I just assume it’s some kind of fed psyop until proven otherwise.

      • OBJECTION!
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        41 month ago

        In this case? Yeah, probably. If there was proof of their identity they would no longer be anonymous, would they?

        It’s a much more reasonable assumption than how your lot assumes anyone who disagrees with you for any reason is a Russian bot, and can’t be convinced by any amount of proof otherwise.

        • @Soulg@sh.itjust.works
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          I mean at least you’re leaning into the conservative conspiracy hole instead of pretending you’re not in it, so bonus points for honesty.

          I’ve also never accused random posters of being Russian trolls/bots, so fewer points for that.

          • OBJECTION!
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            Lmao, “conservative conspiracy hole.” I guess “being suspicious of anonymous sources” makes me a conservative conspiracy theorist, somehow 🤣

            This is just basic critical thinking lol.

            • @Soulg@sh.itjust.works
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              01 month ago

              “This thing I don’t understand is a government psyop and I will refuse to believe any evidence to the contrary”

              That’s literally Maga 101 you can’t be surprised I called a spade a spade. Plus I just happe to know you’re already conservative from your other posts so it’s just more evidence to back it up.

              • OBJECTION!
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                This thing I don’t understand

                What don’t I understand about it?

                I will refuse to believe any evidence to the contrary

                There is no evidence to the contrary. The only way there could be would be if they got caught.

                Plus I just happe to know you’re already conservative from your other posts so it’s just more evidence to back it up.

                Lmao of course you do.

                As I always say, “If someone claims something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.” Please cite any evidence at all that I’m conservative.

                I apologize for my mistake earlier, when I said my suspicions about Anonymous were more reasonable than your belief that I’m a Russian bot, what I should’ve said is that they’re more reasonable than your baseless and unfalsifiable belief that I’m secretly a conservative. Huge difference.

  • @Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world
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    41 month ago

    So, they are going to hurt innocent people to save the innocent people?

    How exactly does this help us? Why attack infrastructure we need to survive? So many other targets I feel would have better results.

  • @Letsdothis@lemmy.world
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    21 month ago

    Lol this is hilarious. I don’t know which “anonymous” they spoke to, but it definitely wasn’t the actual subversionist hackers that know how to do shit.

    • @Hackworth@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      My final semester in American Sign Language was “Sex, Drugs, and Profanity,” and most of the signs are just exactly what you’d guess. (I held on to those textbooks.) Plus, facial expressions are a big part of the grammar of the language. I don’t recognize this scene, but assuming it’s from a comedy - it’s probably also not far off from accurate.

  • @wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1261 month ago

    Anything supposedly said by “Anonymous” as a hacker group should always be treated with immense skepticism.

    There do exist somewhat legitimate sub-factions that actually take serious actions and do serious ops, and also semi-legitimate “outlets” for their statements… but there’s also an overwhelming amount of smokescreen bullshit “anon news outlets” and little script kiddies running around. It’s important/intentional that those continue existing as smoke screen for the more “serious” factions.

    Beyond that, being an anonymous group with no real methods of confirming membership to outsiders (insiders can just check if you’re in the private IRCs and etc) it means that just about anyone and everyone can make some big declaration like this. The proof will be in the results, not some announcement that could be made by a rando.


    All that said, there’s convincing and considerable evidence (collected by Krebs) that members of Elon’s DOGE group have background in the actual hacking ops spaces.

    No matter who is really making these threats/warnings, I think things are going to get pretty dire in the US government IT space. It’s been well known for decades that most government orgs have absolutely abysmal cyber security, and now you have a bunch of young adult tech-bros with no true accountability running roughshod over all of it. Then there’s the fact that more than one of them have “serious black hat hacker” backgrounds.

    Going to be one wild ride.

    • @fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de
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      41 month ago

      Yeah. I’ve only spent a few moments skimming through the linked article but if you were part of a legitimate hacktivism group planning a significant operation why would you publish this statement ?

      It’s really just spooky hyperbole - as though written by an adolescent that want’s to sound scary and powerful.

      I would absolutely love to see hacktivists cause some chaos, and maybe even some real financial harm.

      • shastaxc
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        11 month ago

        The whole point is to being attention to the rise of fascism. Hacking without releasing a statement like this is just terrorism. Releasing a statement after hacking can make it easier for the govt to cover up, like “no we weren’t hacked, someone in our server room just accidentally tripped over a power cable”

    • @corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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      21 month ago

      It’s been well known for decades that most government orgs

      I’ve seen Muni and Regional gov and also dotcoms.

      The Govs I’ve been at were crazy-tight about security. They were unionized and could decide based on conscience vs costs. Dotcoms, though, followed a different trending, one that really focused on costs.

    • @reksas@sopuli.xyz
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      21 month ago

      I guess its pointless to believe their words since there is no way to know if its them. Just look at what they actually do and judge based on that.

    • comfy
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      11 month ago

      There do exist somewhat legitimate sub-factions that actually take serious actions and do serious ops

      Any examples or sources for me to learn more about these? The only Anonymous news I’ve heard of since the early days is updates on Kirtaner.

    • @MagicShel@lemmy.zip
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      121 month ago

      I don’t know about government overall, but the military and HHS have has some of the most stringent security stances I’ve encountered. To the point where just working for them was a massive chore. (How effective they were I guess I don’t know, but working for them sucked.)

      That said, I’ll take what you said on faith, because I think you’re spot on with everything else.

      • @MutilationWave@lemmy.world
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        81 month ago

        I once answered a phone call inside a com closet on base. Military IT was already escorting me. Security came because the cameras in the closet detected the camera on my phone. It’s definitely physically tight security.

      • @ikidd@lemmy.world
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        161 month ago

        Often, ridiculous and onerous procedural security is hiding massively incompetent actual software security or is used to constrain people from discovering security by obscurity holes. Everything I’ve done in government interfacing as a vendor would seem to confirm this, at least back when I was doing it a few years ago. You’d be hard pressed to convince me it’s changed much since.

      • Boomer Humor Doomergod
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        61 month ago

        I had to help the SSA implement SAML authentication once and they weren’t even allowed to share their screen so I could see what they were doing. Totally agree that it’s a massive chore.

      • @ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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        71 month ago

        That said, I’ll take what you said on faith, because I think you’re spot on with everything else.

        I mean, it’s not a secret that governments everywhere run really outdated software (think things like Windows 7 and older) because “it works”, so it really shouldn’t be too surprising.

    • Boomer Humor Doomergod
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      little script kiddies running around

      Yeah, they’re running around the Treasury Dept right now.

      It’s been well known for decades that most government orgs have absolutely abysmal cyber security

      Having worked with government agencies and a lot of large private organizations the thing that keeps them mostly secure is the amount of red tape involved with things. Patching a production system requires a teleconference with at least five different people and no one person knows everything.

      The idiots without any security experience coming in to “streamline” things will just make the systems even more fragile and insecure.

  • @Jackthelad@lemmy.world
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    781 month ago

    Will it be like when they launched a load of DDoS attacks against Sony, of which the only impact was annoying regular people and doing nothing to the company they were supposedly going after?

      • @RedSnt@feddit.dk
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        31 month ago

        “Bloody Just Stop Oil protesters blocking the road, preventing me to go to work just so they can spread the message that we’re all going to die! I HAVE A MORTGAGE!”

    • @MagicShel@lemmy.zip
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      761 month ago

      They have always been techno-punks: anti-establishment and more style than substance. That being said, if nothing else, they were able to shine a light on shitty people and that’s more than most folks do.

      I wish they were getting into organizations and dumping gigs of documents detailing illegal and anti-consumer/citizen activities, but money and law enforcement really goes after anything with an actually impact that might affect wealth. No one actually gives a shit about a website being down. (Excepting like… Amazon or Google and good fucking luck with that.)

      So it’s like a flaming bag of shit left on a porch. They take care of it and shout “you damn punks!” But if you burn the barn down, every cop in the county will be interrogating everyone they can find until you are caught.

        • @CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee
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          41 month ago

          Thats because anonymous as people actually think about existed for a few years and all the people that did big shit left or turned fed and since then it has been mostly people using the name to get recognition.