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I just pre-ordered one, but the price made me wince 😬
Did they add a heart rate monitor? I know the originals didn’t have them. Otherwise Pebble was the perfect smartwatch.
Yes, on the more expensive version.
I’m pretty excited about this; my Pebble Time was the best watch I’ve even owned - smart or otherwise.
That said, I don’t think I’m going to be preordering this given how badly the last Pebble Kickstarter went. For those who weren’t around at the time, Pebble (whose CEO is behind this venture) built his whole business around Kickstarter. The first 2 generations were wildly successful, but for the third generation they massively overextended themselves trying to get hardware into mainstream retailers, prioritised building stock for retail channels (because contracts) and ran out of cash before shipping for the majority of backers who had bankrolled this whole thing. Eventually everyone who hadn’t had their orders fulfilled got a refund, but that was only because FitBit decided to buy them. Eric seems like a nice guy and great at the technology - and I’m not saying that I could run a business any better - but I think I’ll wait until there is stock on hand for me to buy outright before I hand over my cash
From their FAQ, emphasis mine:
You shouldn’t get one if…
You need a perfectly polished smartwatch. This project is a labour of love rather than a startup trying to sell millions of watches. There may be some rough edges (literally). Things will get delayed. Some features will not be ready at launch. Things could break. Things could not last as long as you’d like. The only thing we can guarantee is that it will be awesome and a lot of fun! Every time you look down at your watch, you will smile
So yeah, I’d say your take is pretty accurate. At least they’re honest lol
My concern isn’t that things will get delayed, it’s that I’ll give them my money and get nothing in return
Understandable, which is why I’m choosing to not preorder. However, they also have a full refund policy that’s good until your unit is being prepared to ship, and several notifications leading up to that point. One of the best ways to handle preorders I’ve encountered.
That’s. Uh… the entire idea of a kickstarter.
It may crash and burn. Don’t want that, don’t back anything on kickstarter.
Honestly that is something I’ve always been ok with on Kickstarter. But it’s 50% scams now of people who never intended to deliver anything in the first place and Kickstarter is taking a lot of steps to protect the scammers in this. The only reason I ever back anything on there anymore is because of campaigns by companies I trust will at least try. I trust Pebble will try, so I personally am very tempted.
… so I shouldn’t use the CEOs history of bankruptcy and failed a Kickstarter when judging if I think it is going to succeed or not?
The idea is that you judge each Kickstarter venture on its likelihood of doing that vs actually delivering.
Yep im also going to wait til its out to make a judgement call.
Ditto, even though I’m in the market to replace my smartwatch since the buttons fell off.
I always feel nervous preordering anything. I got a new Fitbit so I think I have some time before it fails so I can see how this rePebble works out. If it is as good as it looks I might just get it. 30 day estimated battery life is amazing
He also screwed a lot of the employees on the way out from Pebble, and he also bailed on Beeper the minute it got complicated. Sold it to Matt Mullenweg a year or two after getting pimp-slapped by Apple because he had no real plan for what to do if Apple started banning the devices he was using as Matrix bridges. He gave up after like three days, it was honestly genuinely pathetic. This was a paid service and he fucked it all up for anyone using iMessage on it.
I have personal experiences with Beeper that make me less than trust Eric Migicovsky, and I really don’t think he seems like a “nice guy.” He actively sucks, doesn’t have plans for sustainability and then sells it all off to someone else at a personal profit while the people doing the actual work get fucked out of a job.
What’s the gist of your “personal experiences with Beeper”?
I was very excited when Beeper was first announced and I got on the wait list.
I finally got onboarded, and this was when you still had be walked through the setup by one of the Beeper employees.
I got into the Zoom meeting, and got a warning that it was going to be recorded. I had not, up to that point, had ever been disclosed that it was going to be recorded. I declined to join the meeting and sent a follow-up email with some pertinent privacy related questions, especially since in the case of some of the Bridges that were being used for this service essentially meant Beeper would have access to my credentials. They would later create a more secure system, but it was not very secure early on.
My main question regarded Micigovsky’s past in selling Pebble and I asked what gaurantees of the privacy policy were being made in regard to a potential sale of the company (considering it eventually got sold, I guess a good question to ask), and what, if any, promises were being made for the privacy policy to stay unchanged through a sale.
I never got a response to my questions. Not being told I was going to be recorded, and not ever getting an answer to reasonable privacy policy questions led me to never signing up for the service.
Beeper is an instant messenger software that enables using a variety of chat services and protocols all from the same application. It was created in 2020 by Eric Migicovsky, Brad Murray and Tulir Asokan
On December 5, 2023, the company released Beeper Mini, an Android app that can send messages through Apple’s iMessage instant messaging service.
Beeper Mini was downloaded more than 100,000 times within two days of launch. After the release, Apple repeatedly blocked Beeper Mini from sending messages through iMessage, and Beeper updated the app multiple times to circumvent Apple’s blocks.[18] On December 21, 2023, Beeper issued its last update to Beeper Mini, which requires users to access an iOS or macOS device to enable the app to send messages through iMessage.[20]
That timeline is crazy. It’s a chat app for years. It breaks into iMessage and gets crazy downloads. Then 16 days later they’ve given up. Four months later he sells the whole thing.
Yeah, he seems to have a bad habit of bailing on his pet projects once they become “difficult” partially because he never seems to have an actual plan to get them to financial stability. It’s why I’m so hesitant to have any hopes for this reboot of Pebble after he bailed on it the first time around.
This is a blast from the past
I was really excited, but the price is steep compared to the Garmin watches. I currently own an instinct 2. That one gets me between 15 to 18 days of battery and that’s in winter time. In the summer it is longer due to the small solar panel in it. I guess I’ll wait for the reviews and take some nights of sleep on them
Man I might have to get one of these…I don’t mind my FitBit, but since being gobbled by Google, I don’t need another data point for Google to feed off.
I really wanted a Pebble when they first came out, and then REALLY wanted one when they were selling for next to nothing when FitBit bought the company.
I love a smart watch, but hate the daily charging. Im currently wearing a fossil hybrid which has an eink screen under the hands, and I love that it lasts 30 days on a charge, but wish it did more.
So I ordered a Core 2 Duo. I might still cancel the order before December, but no other watch does what I want, and this is the closest.
I’ve been procrastinating for weeks about setting up a dev environment to help contribute to the codebase, but I didn’t procrastinate at all in preordering a Core-2. My Pebble Time might be the last piece of consumer tech that I was both excited for and a satisfied customer of.
Ꝏꝏ love the white one . That watch faceeeeee 🤍🤍
I kinda wanted a Pebble for a while, might as well get one now
How are they allowed to give it the exact same name as an Intel CPU line?
I’ve got a Core 2 Duo around here somewhere…
Honestly, makes me want it more. Are our brains broken?
Anyone remember the screen tearing issue that fucked basically 100% of screens from pebble? I remember.
I went through every single pebble that came out and never had this issue…maybe I got lucky?
It was really only the OG Pebble and the Steel. It was resolved by using a different screen connector in the Pebble 2 and Time.
I’ve had multiple OG’s over the years and each have developed the tearing issue. It’s a fairly easy fix if you’re comfortable opening electronics, but obviously that’s not going to work for every customer of a mass market product…
Yes, had that problem, too.
easy to fix with zebra strip replacement I’m still wearing pebble steel rn
Good to know!
Why would they choose to name the watch “Core 2 Duo” when that’s the name of an Intel processor? And why are both watches a “2” variant? They need a new marketing person.
And why are both watches a “2” variant?
Because this is the next generation of the original Pebble watches.
Core 2 Duo
I’ll actually be surprised if this makes it to launch without Intel perhaps making a few legal calls and prompting a device name change.
Wouldn’t this be the fourth generation? Pebble Time was the second generation and Pebble 2 was the third generation.
The most recent Intel Core 2 Duo was discontinued in 2008. I doubt Intel would be able to convince anyone that this is a competing product or would cause any customer confusion. No one is going to be looking for a low end processor from over a decade ago and accidentally buy a watch.
The point is not that it is being used, the point is that corporations must protect their trademarks or else they may lose the exclusive rights to them. Intel also still uses the “Core” branding on their modern CPU’s so it wouldn’t be a stretch for them to try and continue legally protecting “Core 2 Duo” under the guise of retaining the “Core” part of their trademarks.
They do need to protect their branding, but only if it’s likely to be viewed as “similar”. there’s no reasonable risk of people thinking that a watch and an old processor are the same.
There’s a lot of products with similar names that haven’t had issues.
Corporations are extremely protective about their branding, even if it’s for discontinued products. If this product gets any negative press, it can still affect their branding if people associate it with Intel.
That is not how trademarks work. They are purpose specific. I still have no idea why they would want to name it the same as an old processor, but I doubt it’s actually an issue.
Core 2 Duo is also a terrible name from Intel in the first place. I did place my repebble order, hopefully it will serve me well.
That was my first thought as well. “Intel gonna sue somebody.”
when that’s the name of an Intel processor?
It’s totally a reference to that, it has to pretty much… Why? Idk, nostalgia? Duo as in black and white maybe
The two colours of the first Intel MacBook by Apple, which had Core 2 Duo processors…
Quite an hommage indeed
How does this compare to pine64? I want a privacy focused watch if at all possible
I have a PineTime running through Gadgetbridge, and a Pebble Time Steel with Rebble services. You can pair the Pebble with Gadgetbridge and run it that way, and I imagine these new Core watches would operate similarly… But we will find out as time goes on.
I’m with you on this. If it could come with a privacy-respecting smartphone app hosted on F-Droid, that would be so great.
Gadgetbridge supports pebble
Awesome!
as much as I loved the original Pebbles (and love the design of these too), I think basically the world has moved on… for this kind of money, I am buying a Garmin watch with GPS, HR, etc. but I hope there will be a group of enthusiasts and wish all the luck to the company with sales. more options are always better :)
No moving on here. I still wear a OG Pebble daily, and I’m super excited about this. I just wish they hadn’t chosen ‘Core 2 Duo’ like it hadn’t been the name of another product…
I haven’t moved on. Pebble Time Steel was the best watch I’ve ever had. I’ve been using Fitbit since the death of Pebble and they never got as good as Pebble was. If Repebble hadn’t shown up, I’d probably be going Garmin after the inevitable death of Fitbit. But now that the choice is between Garmin and a hackable open source Pebble with 30 days of battery life… Repebble wins for me. ☺️
Fitbit was pretty bad. My wife had it and after the 3rd rma she just didn’t bother anymore.
I have a PineTime now and she basically claimed it as her own so I’m back to wearing analog watches.
I’m being horribly pedantic here but analog is just the display, you can have a highly computerized analog watch, or a purely mechanical digital watch!
out of curiosity what’s your favorite analog watch (by anyone’s definition) you own?
I only have a Rodania and a Hugo Boss watch. Nothing special.
Cool!
Oh I love my PineTime. I bought mine two years ago but it never played nice with Gadgetbridge, so it lived in a drawer until last month, when I saw someone had been using theirs pretty regularly with Gadgetbridge. I asked about it and mentioned my difficulties, they said that both had been significantly updated since then. Now here we are. It’s a great watch.
