A very NSFW website called Pornpen.ai is churning out an endless stream of graphic, AI-generated porn. We have mixed feelings.
When I first heard Stable Diffusion was going open source, I knew this would happen. The only thing I’m surprised at is that it took almost 2 years.
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That’s very wishful thinking, I’m afraid.
Reduced, maybe, but I don’t think it will impact things significantly. The types of people who participate in that do not want an alternative because they do it because they want to hurt and abuse a real person. They want to have power over another human being and make them suffer. An endless stream of porn isn’t going to fix that sickness.
There’s also the fact that not all porn is exploitative
Make up your mind. Last week every porn was exploitative because reasons, and not it’s not because people could lose their job.
Little known fact - there’s more the one person out there, and, those extra people have lots of differing opinions!
But it’s funny how people never care about nuance when they’re trying to make a point…only when someone else is trying to make a point.
Impossible!
Then why do they say it’s a fact?
Because it is a fact, and anyone who says “all porn is exploitive” is projecting their morals and idealism across a whole industry with zero regard for nuance.
“You can say anything on the internet.” -Genghis Khan
“You can’t just go on the internet and lie.” -Kublai Kahn
Could be interesting. I mean for one thing no real person being expolited and those with strange fetishist can be satisfied. But could be very disturbing as well. Wonder how long until AI video porn?
I think it is just a matter of time for the disturbing stuff to circulate. If people can create their darkest desires they will.
Then cue debates and political campaigns about AI in general and if we should allow anyone or anything to create depraved images, pronographic or not.
Yeah, although I think part of the missing nuance is that people already did that, the difference being that now anyone can, in theory, create what’s inside their head, regardless of their actual artistic talent. Now that creation is accessible though, everyone’s having another moral panic over what should be acceptable for people to create.
If anything, moving the more disturbing stuff from the real world to the digital seems like an absolute win. But I suppose there will always be the argument, much like video games making people violent, that digital content will become real.
That’s so good, sissy. You got even better after I amputated your legs.
“We don’t intend to police the use of developing technologies at this time.”
That’s so good, sissy, blind that billionaire with your acidic piss.
“We cannot allow our children to be exposed to such grotesque videos.”
People have been able to draw for eons. Imagine trying to ban the public from drawing because the odd few people are a little mixed up.
AI is just a tool, like the pencil, charcoal or paints.
I know you aren’t suggesting we ban it from the public, just my side of the hypothetical debate that your right in saying will arrive
It’s already happened. Someone made an AI generated porn of some influencer and it was a big deal for a few minutes.
Are you talking about deep fakes? None of that is original. They just use their a face and AI matches it on to a pornstars body in an existing video.
I feel like we will start to see that more often. S complaint I see a lot here is that some people want extremely niche content that is very specific. If you have some people who get into those very specific poses and do those very specific things then run it through SD’s image to image feature you can make the person look sexy but have the same pose. The same way you have folks do mo cap for roles we might start seeing people specifically hired to do this sort of stand in.
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Finally some good technology
SFW content in an NSFW website. Nice!
I’d throw a hotdog down that corridor, if you know what I mean.
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I’m not sure if I have the strength to clutch these pearls any harder over these articles. I peaked 8 articles ago.
Have a sandwich and a nap then I’m sure you’ll be ready to go again
Seems like the author is clutching them hard enough for everyone.
Weakling.
I’ve been clutching so hard, the pearls fused into my flesh years ago. I’ve bankrupted myself buying more pearls, inserted one by one into my clenched fist.
Luckily the mere sight of me - a lurching pearlescent beast with glinting pearls for eyes - causes clams to voluntarily offer their own in reverance, my own unending supply.
You’re a poet.
While amazing, most of these are hilariously wrong. Let’s just say the girl with 4 bellybuttons was the more tame incorrect thing I saw.
The blowjob section on the site is fascinating. So many pictures of women with dicks growing out of them.
Yup. First one genuinely startled me
“Are we ready”, in the sense that for now it’s 95% garbage and 5% completely generic but passable looking stuff? Eh.
But, as this will increase in quality, the answer would be… who cares. It would suffer from the same major issues of large models : sourcing data, and how we decide the rights of the output. As for it being porn… maybe there’s no point in focusing on that specific issue.
I have been waiting this day for decades ever since I first heard about AI generated images a decade or so ago.
Does it say something about society that our automatons are better at creating similated genitals than they are at hands?
On a visual level, we are more interested in genitals than hands? Also, faces.
It says that we are biologically predisposed to sex, which we are, like animals, which we are.
It doesn’t say anything about society, it just confirms the human condition.
But… why are hands so difficult?
I’m sure it would have the same difficulty generating five properly articulating penises attached to a limb.
Fully Articulated Hand Penises!
I’ll admit I have some difficulty with that concept myself.
Ever watch the “Everything Everywhere All at Once” hotdog scenes?
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They suck quite a lot at genitals
Are we still doing “phrasing”?
Said Ripley to the android Bishop.
I think words like “thirsty” and “thirst trap” are self defeating. Actual thirst is your body’s biological response to a need for water. Without water, you’ll die. Calling porn sites “thirst traps” suggests that people have a critical need for porn - which is often contrary to the point the author is trying to make.
Arguing about the ethics or morality of something that’s “necessary” for survival is irrelevant. Anyone who’s against pornography is perfectly within their rights to share their opinion, but they should avoid the word “thirst”.
Edit: I know the issue of pornography can evoke strong feelings in some, but I’m only talking about word choice, folks.
I’m also not one of those tiresome people people who refuses to admit that they’re wrong, and acts like a child when faced with sound opposition. If someone would actually put their opinion into words, instead of just downvoting, I’d appreciate it.
It’s slang. There are tons of words in every language that don’t make sense but get used a certain way because that’s how people use them. Next thing you’re gonna tell me is that in the 1980s when people called things bad you were upset because they actually meant good.
Man, you really do sound like a redditor.
A redditor would try to hide their gross opinion behind a thin veneer of logic. I’m not getting into the ethics of porn at all.
I’m just talking about phrasing. I think “thirst” is a poor analogy.
I think words like “thirsty” and “thirst trap” are self defeating. Actual thirst is your body’s biological response to a need for water. Without water, you’ll die. Calling porn sites “thirst traps” suggests that people have a critical need for porn - which is often contrary to the point the author is trying to make.
a thin veneer of logic
He’s right. You’re not actually listening to what he’s saying at all. You’re the one who sounds like a redditor.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Thirsty
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=thirst traps
The author isn’t using thirsty, like you’re thirsty for water. They are using the slang version.
I can see how you would misunderstand without knowing that.
Dude, what
I just think the word “thirst” is a bad choice, that’s all.
This is a good hill to die on, and I applaud you for it.
*stabs him*Lol read the reply from @Ropianos. It’s good.
Consider another association with thirst: Desperation. In the mind of the author porn consumption is negative so anyone consuming porn is doing this out of desperation, despite knowing better. It essentially describes people being controlled by their base instincts. And thus this site is a trap, luring people against their will.
That is how I would interpret the word thirst in this context anyway. It’s not about a critical need, it’s about thirst being irrational and highly compulsive.
Awesome! Thank you! This is the kind of thought provoking response I was hoping for.
Additionally, it’s a really good point. I totally missed this interpretation, and I think it’s better than mine.
That’s hardly even an interpretation. Thirst and hunger as verbs have always meant to desire something.
Sure, no worries! I haven’t been disappointed yet by responding to downvoted comments so I will keep doing it :)
Just another similar metaphor: Power hungry. Not the stove kind but the dictator kind. To be honest, there are quite a lot of body related metaphors, e.g. drowning in trouble, blinded by ambition. I guess it comes down to evoking some strong emotion.
I think a lot of people (myself included) are used to the combative, hostile environment of reddit. An actual friendly disagreement is a foreign concept to them. Personally, I enjoy it when other people present different perspectives. It’s both interesting and a great way to learn.
And yeah, “power hungry” has a similar vibe. Nice!
Totally agree, though I haven’t really participated that much on Reddit. Seems like any disagreement is quickly framed as trolling over there.
Yeah. People are very defensive, because even the insinuation of disagreement is taken as a personal attack. It gets into your head, and takes a while to get over. You forget that reasonable, well-meaning conversations are even possible. It sucks. I’ll never go back.
Slip and slide right into CP
That’s already happening