All these (ad)ons always take priority over performance.

  • @progettarsi@feddit.it
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    71 year ago

    pls whatsapp stop copying from fucking telegram there should be a law to make it not possible this is killing competition

    • adr1an
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      21 year ago

      But ‘Stories’ are from IG, owned by Meta… so… we rather stay quiet on this occasion xdd

      • @progettarsi@feddit.it
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        11 year ago

        first they copied it from snapchat (meta loves to copy from smaller alternatives to kill them) second they added it only people where continuing to ask them for it (me too)

      • voxel
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        11 year ago

        tg stories failed miserably due to being premium only tho

        • Yetanaika
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          31 year ago

          But I can use them just fine? Some customization options like expiration time are behind premium but it’s available for everyone.

          I think it was premium only for a short while before version 10

          • voxel
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            …you still can’t publish stories without premium. I’ve only seen like one two stories so far (despite having hundreds of contacts and chats), and one of them is a telegram ad. Almost everyone gets surprised when they see the stories bubble at the top…

            • Saulot
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              11 year ago

              you can publish them (at least on iphone) without premium

      • @ehsan301@lemmy.world
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        21 year ago

        Stories are the worst addition to Telegram. I hope Meta sue them and make them remove this feature :D

  • @avater@lemmy.world
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    31 year ago

    it really depends.

    If it’s different parts of the same system I really don’t like if it gets split up to multiple apps. Take steam, there I need two apps, one for the general store and it’s functions and one for communicating with my friends. In that case I’d rather would have one app that fits all.

    But if I don’t need several functions of an app and they are also hurting the experience with it, I’d rather would have the sourced out to other apps.

  • @sndrtj@feddit.nl
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    101 year ago

    This is far more likely to become the Do Everything App for the Western World than X/Twitter is.

    • @elvith@feddit.de
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      31 year ago

      I’m really interested how this is going to play out. I’m seeing this from a European perspective - Meta has show many times, that they shit on the GDPR. And while it seemed, that nothing really happened so far, that authorities are getting traction. Fines are racking up. The Digital Services Act and the Digital Markets Act are going to introduce more regulations, and I think that the future might hold even more surprises for Meta, especially if they succeed in build all these new things into WhatsApp.

  • @skymtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    381 year ago

    I feel like FOSS apps keep getting more viable while closed source apps keep getting worse. I feel like the next version of the internet is the one few know about. Even Mastodon is getting better, and Lemmy is pretty much a reddit equivalent now.

  • Possibly linux
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    241 year ago

    Don’t use WhatsApp or Telegram. There are better things to use. (Signal, Session and simplex chat)

    • @Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      351 year ago

      lol. "Don’t use the messaging apps used by all your friends and family. Use another app so you cant contact them. "

      • @baropithecus@lemmy.world
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        111 year ago

        Man, messaging is a nightmare. I use signal with a few of my closest contacts, whatsapp with most other people, sms as a fallback and for work I have to occasionally use Teams and fucking Viber (ugh). At least I managed to liberate myself from the clutches of Slack.

        If only there was some standard way to get these apps to talk to each other so everybody could use what they want. Oh wait, there was, it was called XMPP, it worked perfectly and big tech fucking killed it and replaced it with the irritating clusterfuck that is the current status quo.

        • @philpo@feddit.de
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          11 year ago

          Matrix with Bridges does help a lot, though. Alternatively Beeper. (Which is Matrix with Bridges)

    • @dzire187@feddit.de
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      111 year ago

      Sure, I use Signal with some. But I will have to use WhatsApp to interact with most people. They won’t switch just because I tell them to.

      • @Vittelius@feddit.de
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        51 year ago

        Luckily they don’t have to switch. Your good friends from the European union have a solution for you (And the latest beta for whatsapp features the skeleton for their implementation of that standard)

    • Chetzemoka
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      41 year ago

      Yep, when Meta bought it, I warned my group friend chats that the second they start trying to monetize it, I’m going to whine until they all switch to Signal. Guess it’s time to start nagging

  • Neptune
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    671 year ago

    WhatsApp is a shithole. Communities, Channels, Payments, Avatars all these destroyed the simple chat app. Meta is aiming for a monopoly here.

    Signal and Telegram pretty much useless if you don’t have your needful people on the platform.

    • @lattenwald@lemmy.world
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      131 year ago

      Thankfully I don’t have people I need on WhatsApp, but it took some convincing.

      Nowadays I only have dentist and barbershop on WhatsApp, all my folks are on Telegram, including all work communications.

      WhatsApp was always lacking features; WhatsApp web can’t replace a full featured desktop client which is a must have for me; and its mobile client is inconvenient in every possible way.

      • LUHG
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        41 year ago

        WA does have a desktop client. Fuck that though.

          • @JGrffn@lemmy.world
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            51 year ago

            It’s worse now, it’s an all out react native app, I believe. On windows, it’s hideous. Simple things such as sending attachments become a multiple-seconds-long waiting game; by the time I’m able to send a screenshot, my phone link has already transfered the clipboard from my pc to my phone, I have unlocked it and opened WhatsApp and sent the attachment through android instead. This has happened to me more times than I care to count.

            There’s also this nasty input focus bug, where you sometimes have to tab out of the app entirely and tab back in for it to detect focus on textboxes.

            Its like they’re intently taking steps back on WhatsApp as a whole, kind of reminiscent of Skype’s fall from grace.

            • @narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee
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              21 year ago

              WhatsApp actually uses the native UI frameworks of each operating system on all major platforms now, meaning whatever the latest Windows UI framework is called and Swift UI on macOS. Their mobile apps natively use Material on Android and Swift UI on iOS respectively, and always have been.

              I actually think it’s great. One of the few service-based multi-platform apps that actually has native clients on all platforms as opposed to Electron apps or React “native” or whatever. It does this better than pretty much any other messenger (Telegram, Signal etc. on desktop are all Electron apps or similar).

              I’ll bail out if (or inevitably when) they add more and more bloat (like channels or this shopping stuff for example).

          • Neptune
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            11 year ago

            Fr! only reason why I prefer the webapp over client

  • @mightyfoolish@lemmy.world
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    51 year ago

    This is kind of funny. Some of these features I would see see as Google’s turf. However, since Google can’t create a text messaging service, Meta can use their messaging app to encroach.

  • YⓄ乙
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    -21 year ago

    Developing countries should get their act together and stop using WhatsApp.

    • @eee@lemm.ee
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      61 year ago

      By “developing countries”, do you mean “most of the world outside the US”? Because WhatsApp is used extensively in Europe as well. Which means you’re either ignorant, condescending, or both.

      • YⓄ乙
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        -71 year ago

        I meant countries like India, Brazil etc. They heavily use WhatsApp mostly because people are illiterate and poor. People use WhatsApp in Europe but not as much when compared to India.

        • @eee@lemm.ee
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          In 2022, 75% of UK Internet users and 80% of Hong Kong internet users used WhatsApp (just do a search for “WhatsApp usage in Hong kong/uk”). Would you call these global financial hubs poor and illiterate countries?

          I hate Facebook as much as the average lemmy user (lemming?), but let’s not pretend that everyone makes decisions based on the company’s reputation.

          • @tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk
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            11 year ago

            I’m in the UK and have it but literally none of my contacts use it except the local dog daycare that use it to send pictures. So according to stats I ‘use’ it but not really

            Facebook messenger is fairly big (almost everyone is on it mainly because they all have Facebook accounts) and I know a lot on Signal (they all moved from Telegram because Russia, which I thought was an overreaction but no choice but to follow).

            • @Dontfearthereaper123@lemm.ee
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              11 year ago

              I’m in the uk and it’s not uncommon to never end up texting people on WhatsApp but in my experience almost everyone I’ve met has it

        • @angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com
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          31 year ago

          I don’t think the majority of the populace…anywhere makes app decisions based on morality. WhatsApp is basically nonexistent in USA and Canada (and while Facebook and Instagram are present they are far from omnipresent) but I don’t think it has anything to do with people making informed decisions about the moral issues with tech companies.

        • @tungah@lemmy.world
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          41 year ago

          Are you saying there’s a relation between the use of Whatsapp and education or economic levels of a country? What are you on about?

          • YⓄ乙
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            01 year ago

            I am saying if you’re not educated you cannot take educated decisions such as people dont know what’s Facebook capable of. Look at the killings, riot and coup in Myanmar, india etc.That’s just one example but there’s many more. WhatsApp and Facebook are defaults apps on all the phones so people who don’t know much just start using the app but people who know about collection of data, people being manipulated, fake news will avoid using WhatsApp , Facebook etc.

            • @tungah@lemmy.world
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              11 year ago

              This contrived correlation you’re trying to establish just doesn’t hold up to the statistics or common sense.

              In every country there are individuals who value digital privacy and/or security.

              The truth is, these individuals are the minority in virtually every case. The majority of the population, irregardless of overall education or social status, just doesn’t care enough to act upon the compromises necessary for a more private and secure digital life, instead opting for the more convenient way of doing things.

              People in general just love having easy access to online services, and oversharing their information, either with Big Tech, or their peers over social media. That’s just human behavior.

              Education could perhaps bring consciousness about this issue, but it’s most often the product of an individual concern. And this just can’t be simply related the way you’re insisting here.

              There are no digital privacy/security classes in the structured general education on “more developed” countries. At least not contrasting with the lack thereof on the “least developed” countries in a statistically meaningful way.

              We’re getting used to seeing the EU having to step in and legislate against or punish corporations on their abuse of customer data, just for that same legislation not to encounter an equivalent on the United States, or other “more developed” countries.

              You gave the example of the coup in Mianmar, and the role of social media manipulation though fake news, and so on.

              Do you really think people in Mianmar, or India are more manipulated by these apps than, say, people in the UK, Germany, or Switzerland?

              Have you ever tried to talk about geopolitical events with the average Joe in Denmark? How about in the USA?

      • @moitoi@feddit.de
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        131 year ago

        This is US defaultism. People doesn’t care about sms capabilities outside the US. The US isn’t a huge market for Signal.

        • @Acamon@lemmy.world
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          91 year ago

          I think it did effect things. SMS is weirdly popular in the US (i think it’s might be cause they didn’t use it much in the 90s?) but people I know in France and UK still use texts for some things, even if messaging apps are where most of communication happens (French people even use mms which is insane).

          I know that I managed to convince a number of tech-shy people (including parents) to get Signal by telling them replaced their sms app, so it wasn’t a whole extra app / network they needed to use. It was great for me because I could ditch WhatsApp completely. But when signal stopped supporting sms they went back to just whatsapping and texting, so I cracked and reinstalled WhatsApp to keep in touch with them.

        • @EngineerGaming@feddit.nl
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          21 year ago

          I only use SMS for some communication because the only other form of communication my phone can do is calls. But I have to be careful with that because they’re paid and not unlimited.

    • @SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net
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      31 year ago

      Mostly because of the 400+ who remained on WhatsApp, the 45 of 50 decided to move back and the 5 probably are running both apps

      • @TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id
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        True. They stick to WhatsApp as all th convo goes there and it laziness to switch over, copy data and all .

        Srsly I hope people will start installing Signal once again.