Literal doses of happy chemicals get released because attention. You should watch the Social Dilema if you haven’t already.

You can literally get people hooked on this and retrain on what is good happy time and what is not good happy time. Shit is scary.

I get notifications for precisely two things: Texts and emails. And only emails because of work. Otherwise it would only be texts. I turn off all other notifications the second I install the app because I don’t need that shit.

For me, notifications trigger a small hit of anxiety

I wouldn’t say I like it but I kinda need it for work. If I don’t I get confronted about an email that I haven’t read yet and am not able to give an intelligent response.

They’ve reported it for ages, but it’s only been in the last few years that they’ve actually been not signing up.

Let’s write 5k comments… evil laughter

You can play that game with anything though.

• watch 1 30min show a day: 182hrs
• sleep 8hr instead of 7h: 365hrs
• skip washing your hands during the day: 10-20yrs You called convince yourself to stop exercising? Stop eating breakfast? Stop reading? Stop talking to friends? Stop wasting time on hobbies?

People can pick what they waste time on for themselves. I’m not going to spend 2hrs/day on social media, but I might play a video game, read a book, hike in the woods, watch a movie, organize photos, whatever. It’s my time, and mentally checking out for a bit doing something that’s not “productive” gives me energy I can apply to other pursuits.

How much cable did previous generations watch? 2 hours in an evening seems reasonable, maybe even low for some people

Sailing around the world costs money, but you can learn about other places through other people sharing their experiences on tiktok. There are livestreams teaching language, where you can get a much more personalized teaching and your questions answered without judgement for interrupting, there are carpenters sharing useful tricks, and showing how to build things for yourself. There are livestreams showing how to operate a crane at a shipping port, and what that career is like. TikTok has a lot more than the dancing, meowing, and giggling, although if that’s what you watch a lot of and interact with, it will happily give you only that, but that’s a user problem, not a platform problem.

So what? Every generation has their form of entertainment. How is this worse than reading a book or watching TV or playing a video game for fun? Or spending your time on Lemmy? Or really just doing anything for fun where you don’t expect an outcome. I don’t want to work every living minute.

Also yeah, you could learn a language a year if you do it every day but

1. It needs time to get into it
2. It’s exhausting
3. It’s repetitive and gets boring fast.

Social media is mostly used if you don’t have anything else to do and can’t just leave. So like on the toilet or in school. Also who says they aren’t doing something productive while watching? It makes repetitive tasks less boring. So you can totally still learn carpentry while watching TikTok or anything really.

Time you enjoy isn’t time bad spend. Why do anything you hate doing? How does sailing around the world or learning a new language makes you enjoy your life more? Also: how is sailing the sea more productive than watching TikTok when most of the time, you do nothing on the ship.

Because phones aren’t a basic necessity in the Western world in 2023 or anything.

Yes don’t use this specific copy of a computer use this one instead.

I already get an internal struggle to scream out of frustration every time I see the mail box of one of my colleagues having 100+ unread mails. Most coming from automated systems like Jira, Jenkins, etc. I funnel all those mails into separate folders, and just click through them once in a while. Or mass mark them as read.

I don’t think I could survive 5000 notifications.

Probably also random games and apps spamming you to play them

60% of the group get less than 300 80% get less than 500

5000 is probably a very very small percent, and probably kids that have a shit load of followers.

I feel like I’d install a bunch of shit before getting anywhere close to a tenth of that. I’d hate my phone. However, I’m far from being a teenager and their ways and methods have become somewhat mysterious.

This number is skewed by Notifications John, who receives millions of notifications a day and should not be counted

I know a lot of people who never change their Discord notifications. They get notifications for every message in every channel in every server. It’s insane.

Obviously they do not actually interact with these notifications. They tune them out, and I guess eventually they will swipe them away. Personally it always stresses me out a little when I see their phones with a hundred notifications. I’ve never been a proponent of “inbox zero” for email, but “notification bar zero” has been my standard way of using smartphones for as long as smartphones have existed. If I got 3 notifications per minute on my phone, I would probably smash it with a hammer and go find a nice cave to retire to.

Easily achievable if you participate in group chats.

I get a lot, although not that many, but I have sound turned off for most and clear them like once a week or so.

probably from all those people
who can’t form a single sentence
without hitting “send”
every two words

I can see my phone getting that if I let every app just push whatever they want. I purposefully and carefully go through and ensure I’m only getting notifications for what I need them for.

I average 250 a day. With 3/4 of those being messaging apps.

Holy shit man. That sounds so stressful

I disabled lock screen notification for a) privacy; b) so that I could see my nice lockscreen wallpaper

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IMO all notifications should be opt-in. I basically have everything but my phone, text messages, and Outlook email off. The constant buzzing throughout the day was driving me insane.

Yeah, I’m with you. I declared war on notifications during covid and they suddenly became super annoying whilst working from home

That’s a very valid concern. Personally, I think parents should keep their kids away from phones much longer. While I’ve only got a kid on the way, I’m hoping to keep them off of smartphones until high school.

I hope to teach my kids the beauty of Do Not Disturb. I get a lot of notifications but they don’t notify me.

I’m no psychologist but to me if you buy your kid a smartphone then you basically risk having him/her destroy his/her brain cells and attention span with Tiktok and Snapchat.

Things this has been said about before: internet, computers, video games, cable TV, broadcast TV, radio, comics, pulp novels, newspapers, the printing press, widespread ability to read/write…

Hell, the first kid to utter a word probably got growled at.

Just because we can’t keep up as we get older, doesn’t mean the kids are doomed. They live at a faster pace than us, it’s always been like this. It’s just technology didn’t change as fast.

1. disable notifications for most apps. I’m not sure if you can do it for iPhone, but any android phone, you can stop any app from sending any type of notification, even separating based on category. Eg. Turning off all youtube notifications except for security ones.

2. Have your kid read books, this will do wonders in helping them get ahead near the start of their school life, as well as doing wonders on their creativity and imagination.

3. Limit their screen time, and force them to find something else to do with their time. My mum did this to me, I hated it growing up, but I’m incredibly grateful now. It forced me to find ways to have fun without technology.

4. Drop these restrictions down when they are a teenager. Teenagers want freedom. Hopefully, through making your kid read books while growing up, they will choose to read books in their teenage years. I know I did, and both my sisters did.

Although this is the thoughts from someone who is 20, going off their own recent experience and from watching their siblings, I would definitely love to hear thoughts from others about this, tho.

My classmates get similar amount of notifications. It doesn’t seem to be a problem, they just ignore all of them. There’s no way you’re going through each of those.