Europe gives Elon Musk 24 hours to respond about Israel-Hamas war misinformation and violence on X::Thierry Breton, the European commissioner for the internal market, warns Elon Musk about disinformation on X related to the Israel-Hamas conflict.
Elon is okay with it since it suits him.
Who gave unelected eurocrats or billionaire techbros the right to censor the internet and decide what is “disinformation”?
The European Commission commissioners are confirmed by the EP.
If they are unelected, so is every government minister of every member state. This “unelected eurocrat” rubbish is stale disinformation.
That is the only part of the above post that is wrong, though. Governments have no business deciding what is “disinformation”, much less to censor such.
Better remove it.
They own the websites, so of course they get to censor them.
Boy I hope the EU does something besides sit around with its dick in their hands.
What about the country where those megacorps are living?
Failure to comply with the European regulations around illegal content could result in fines worth 6% of a company’s annual revenue.
“I remind you that following the opening of a potential investigation and a finding of non-compliance, penalties can be imposed,” Breton wrote.
The second might be just talk but the first one is very much “something”.
Since Twitter lost $20 billion in value this year, he would argue that means the EU owes Twitter $1.2 billion.
Edit: Yes, revenue vs profit. I get it. It was a joke.
Revenue. Doesn’t matter what they’re worth.
Revenue, not profit.
In other words - Twitter would lose even more money. And they’d lose it to people that can take it straight from their bank accounts. 6% of it, to start with.
So $0.48 of every blue checkmark would go straight to the EU.
And, IIRC the penalty is based on last years or accounting periods data, i.e, from times where they still earned money.
Since Twitter lost $20 billion in value this year, he would argue that means the EU owes Twitter $1.2 billion.
Edit: Yes, revenue vs profit. I get it. It was a joke.
Wouldn’t surprise me if that was Elon’s “strategy” here.
That’s pretty much the joke I was going for, but I guess I should’ve been more obvious……
Ok, it’s been 24 hours, anyone have an update?
He doesn’t have time for that, after all he’s the busiest man on the planet and earns his billions every day.
Which is why his Diablo 4 Druid is level 100. Lol.
Why do you know what level he has in some game? Why are people so obsessed with Elon in general? Ignore that clown.
He’s one of the wealthiest people in the world
So? Do you know the level of Gates in some game? Or any other absurdly rich person? This is only happening with Elon.
He’s still playing that shitty game?
I enjoy Diablo IV and I think that’s okay. It’s a wonderful dopamine generator and a good podcast companion.
The fact that it’s online-only should be reason enough for no one to buy it and continue enabling this anti-consumer behavior. But whatever, no one cares I guess.
The fact that it’s online-only should be reason enough for no one to buy it and continue enabling this anti-consumer behavior. But whatever, no one cares I guess.
The fact that it’s online-only may be reason enough for you not to buy it. You don’t get to dictate what the rest of us do.
I’m not sure I understand why you consider online-only “anti-consumer.” It’s just the direction this series has taken. We don’t call any other requirements “anti-consumer.” I don’t have a graphics card on my PC good enough to support VR, does that mean Half Life Alyx is “anti-consumer” for being VR only?
At the time I understood the frustration the community expressed with Diablo III, but we’re well past that now. And network connections are far better now than they were then.
Does it limit Blizzard’s audience? Sure. Does it alienate some people who played Diablo II? Sure. But to Blizzard, the benefits in terms of design freedom, baked-in multiplayer zones, and anti-cheating capabilities outweigh that loss.
You don’t get to dictate what the rest of us do.
No one is trying to dictate what you do. I’m making you aware that your choices impact everyone else and expressing my dismay that you and other purchasers don’t seem concerned about the direction of this industry.
I’m not sure I understand why you consider online-only “anti-consumer.”
I mean it’s very simple. It benefits the corporation. It has zero benefit to the consumer, and several drawbacks, including the inability to play anytime there’s not an active internet connection (mobile), and the inability to play when the developer inevitably goes out of business or their servers go down, whether temporarily or permanently.
It’s just the direction this series has taken.
I don’t know what this means. It’s not “just a direction”, it’s an explicitly anti-consumer direction.
I don’t have a graphics card on my PC good enough to support VR, does that mean Half Life Alyx is “anti-consumer” for being VR only?
Uhhhh no? Why would it be?
But to Blizzard, the benefits in terms of design freedom, baked-in multiplayer zones, and anti-cheating capabilities outweigh that loss.
None of these have anything to do with requiring a server ping for single player modes.
If your going to bash him, don’t do it for him playing computer games.
…there are plenty of proper reasons!
Bashing him for his choice of game is fair play.
That’s not the point. The point is that oligarchs always go on about how hard they work, which makes them somehow deserve all the wealth they’ve swindled us out of. But if you work so hard, you won’t have time to sink endless hours into a game.
When someone claims they are so work-focused that they sleep in the office and expect others to follow suit, finding out that they have a high level character in a game that’s only a few months old is worth bashing them over.
It’s not that Elon plays games, it’s that he pretends he’s too busy to do so and expects his employees to be too busy to do so.
Little note: he doesn’t earn billions every day
oh, so sorry
Why would he not pay somebody to play?
I like his new ‘defiant teenager’ style 😆
I will like him more when he, like some teenager, realizes there are consequences to his actions.
Oh no, no, don’t get me wrong, please.
I do not like him. I just like the style how he gets depicted recently, with the stubble etc.
“Thierry Breton, the European commissioner for the internal market, said in a letter addressed to Musk on Tuesday that his office has “indications” that groups are spreading misinformation and “violent and terrorist” content on X, and urged the billionaire to respond within a 24-hour period.”
Sounds like it’s just a strongly worded letter.
I sometimes feel like the only person that remembers that DSA exists. It went into effect in August.
Doesn’t that only come into effect at the beginning of 2024?
If I understand correctly it’s a gradual rollout.
A bit below that it says that they’re also threatening fines of 6% of annual revenue.
You have to have revenue in order to be fined 6% of it.
Ah so that’s why he’s tanking it
Are they gonna give Twitter more money then? /s
You’re thinking of profit, not revenue
Are we sure
Twitter𝕏’s revenue is still in the positive? I don’t think direct injections of capital count as revenue.Revenue is money in before costs, so yes their revenue is still positive given they are actually charging some people positive amounts. Their earnings are quite likely negative.
$2bn in 2022 for non-US. https://www.businessofapps.com/data/twitter-statistics/
Assume 80% of that is Europe, and a 25% drop in revenue since X, is $1.2bn, then 6% is $72m. This would likely be a daily fine of about $197K per day USD, minus shifty billionaire revenue reporting.
Assume 80% of that is Europe, and a 25% drop in revenue since X
What’s the basis for assuming a 25%? Instead of, let’s say, a 90%?
EU revenue fines are generally calculated by global revenue cause companies always try to shift the money to other countries.
6% of zero is zero.
Am I missing something? I said revenue not profit. Or is the joke that Twitter isn’t making any money anymore?
I think it hardly ever was profitable and even revenue should be quite dropping since it became X
6% of their revenue is probably still billions of dollars. Might even amount to the biggest fine ever.
$2bn in 2022 for non-US. https://www.businessofapps.com/data/twitter-statistics/
Assume 80% of that is Europe, and a 25% drop in revenue since X, is $1.2bn, then 6% is $72m. This would likely be a daily fine of about $197K per day USD, minus shifty billionaire revenue reporting.
Wow, that’s MUCH less revenue than you’d expect from a worldwide behemoth like the shithole formerly known as Twitter!
Hadn’t read the actual letter. It would be interesting to know what the specific request they have is.
Any updates on the situation? The 24h period must be done by now.
I have the same question. I hope the reply is published.
Time to ban Twitter and call it a day.
I deleted my Twitter at the beginning of this year. Never used it much, just followed a lot of metal bands on it. I don’t regret it for a single second. Everyday since, it’s just been one giant non-stop shit show. It’s sad to see so many still use it, but for my own good conscience, I can’t support that platform in any way. I avoid it like the plague.
I’ve only used it like 5 times to contact airlines. Their social media team seems better staffed and more helpful than the hotline. Tried using it in the early days, but the 160 char limit was a total turnoff for me. Felt like back in the 90’s with a 160 char limit imposed on text messages, and everybody using cryptic abbreviations. That almost triggered some high school PTSD. And when they changed that I was already too far immersed in other channels to get my updates to really bother trying again.
Musk is about to learn why getting rid of the content moderation department wasn’t very cost-saving to the operation of his platform.
Musk has made it clear that this was never about money. Er, at least not about Xitter making money.
Musk is about to learn
Aren’t you an optimist.
Hah, I think you have a VERY valid point. Musk truly, and I mean TRULY DOESNT CARE WHAT ANYONE THINKS.
he cares what people think - he wants people to pay attention to him.
I’m sure he’ll learn…the wrong lesson
24 hours for Elon Musk to replace the truth he’s said with a lie which Europe would like to hear.
I am so sick of seeing his face everywhere. I’m blocking everyone.
i believe the is a chrome/firefox extension where you can block news about certain people. I dont remember how it’s called.
He’s basically the new Trump, in that for five years you could not escape Trump’s fucking face on every website you visited. Perhaps Musk isn’t quite that level, but he’s not far off. He’s in the news an insane amount, and it’s basically as annoying as Trump, only he’s not as ugly or stupid.
These people gotta worship someone because they lack any sort of self identity of their own and critical thinking skills.
They need a leader to tell them what to do.
Are you assuming there’s so much bad coverage of Musk because people worship him? It’s almost always dunking on how much of an idiot he is and hoping he loses lots of money.
I understand it can be legitimately annoying to hear about some people repeatedly, but when the discourse is about how awful those people are, you’re better off just not clicking the link. Let people who want to eat popcorn at the circus do so and leave the circus.
Elon is Desantis. Like him or not, Trump makes great TV. Its like the best thriller ever created. Elon is fine when other people talk about him. But when he’s on TV, he’s boring just like Ron. He’s got no personality.
I still see Trumps face everywhere, though primarily on left wing media. Oddly enough, I see it there more than I do on right wing media. (Gotta see what both sides are saying, the truth is in the middle somewhere)
I miss Apollo where yoy could block any keyword which prevented me from seeing commwnts or posts that contained specific text…
Edit: someone below pointed out Voyager can do this in theur web app! Thanks again dude!
What app or webui are you using? Most of them have keyword filters now.
Voyager, what do you recommend for iphone?
I primarily use Thunder, but Mlem, Memmy, and Arctic have filters afaik. Avelon has filters but you need to pay for it. That’s what I’ve seen with what I’ve tested. Liftoff only has blocking of users/communities.
Mlem allows for filters
Arctic has separate filters for the post body and post title, which is really nice.
Avelon has keyword filtering and also supports instance blocking.
Both have been great!
Voyager has it on their web app, I need to update my post. I checked out Avelon and it looms you you must pay for upgraded app to filter. No thanks.
Ah, didn’t realize that was a paid feature (already paid so I can’t see what is or isn’t paid).
I’m not a fan of web apps, they’re much slower than native. Arctic is completely free for all features, so that could be a better choice for someone wanting filters and a native experience. It’s still in TestFlight at the moment, link in sidebar for its community.
Awesome, thanks for sharing. Ill check out Arctic too then
No problem! There’s lots of great apps out there right now, really happy to see such an active community of developers!
Lol, I had to share this due to the timing of my comment…
Turns out there was a new voyage release TODAY that allows filtering keywords in the phone app version. Lmao whoops!
Voyager allows you to do that and since it a PWA you can use it and/or install it on any platform. https://vger.app
MAN YOU ROCK!! Thanks! Now I can block “elon” and “trump” lmao
YW!
Boost does that. You can filter out a whole instance if you want.
Ok but how do you filter away “elon musk”
I’m glad that someone is fighting misinformation. What scares me, is if the right wing in the US starts trying to do the same thing. Can you imagine them cracking down on Facebook, X, etc for misinformation like the EU is doing? It would only be Biden conspiracies and pro Trump propaganda allowed. Good thing we aren’t giving our government that power.
Absolutely. We should never give the government the right to censor the Internet.
Moms of Liberty enters the chat
Go EU, Go!
