Microsoft develops ultra durable glass plates that can store several TBs of data for 10000 years::Project Silica’s coaster-size glass plates can store unaltered data for thousands of years, creating sustainable storage for the world

    • @kromem@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      0.1% of the intended storage duration?

      Given the 20 years of development between the first VTR and VHS, the 100% development to storage lifetime of that technology seems pretty large in comparison.

      Also, how silly would it be if we put things into glass for 10,000 years and then 5 years later there’s a format war like VHS vs Beta and we need to redo everything?

      Intelligent life in the future will find 10,000 year old records from present day humanity and be so frustrated by the multiple competing formats over the first 100 of those years that they won’t even bother trying to read it.

      Of all the things to take time with to get right, extremely long term storage seems like one of the more prudent.

  • @MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world
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    411 year ago

    Awesome. So Microsoft, does this mean I’ll finally get access to the other 3TB of OneDrive storage that I pay for on my family plan? Or do I still have to create random accounts that would simulate other family members in order to use it?

    • @ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world
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      21 year ago

      This plan it built under the assumption that more people will be using one drive. The value of scrapped data isn’t just quantity, but number of people.

      • @flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
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        To be fair, I have a lot of stuff I am storing that I have no realistic reason to ever need or want to read again as it is.

      • @jvisick@programming.dev
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        41 year ago

        Never read again? These can’t be modified, but they can be read. After all, it’d be pretty useless to store data on a medium than can never be read.

  • @DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone
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    71 year ago

    What are you going to read it with? Unless it’s photographically reduced text, like microfiche, it’s unlikely that the computer hardware and software will still exist.

    • @InvertedParallax@lemm.ee
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      61 year ago

      Nobody uses a 6502 with commodore basic anymore either, I can still pop on an emulator in about 10 seconds to run a game from that era.

      Have some information there to build a reader, we can read hieroglyphics and cuneiform and that’s older, more primitive and only written in a few places by a few people.

      This is pretty doable.

  • @kromem@lemmy.world
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    71 year ago

    I can already see the future where warlords fight over the pretty glass buried in vaults across the land so they can whittle it down into jewelry they use to decorate the skull chalices of their enemies in order to pour out libations to the magic forces from the sky that govern their lives…

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        That writing is for words and concept. This is for data. Its a bit more complicated to parse data especially when, according to MSFT, it needs AI to do it.

        Your backups are only as good as your ability to access them. Its the same issue with keeping people out of nuclear waste sites.

        • @nexusband@lemmy.world
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          11 year ago

          I disagree with that notion, because while only 70 years, there’s still ways to read punch cards as well. Sure, if society completely collapses and education will not be “reinvented” in 5000 years, those things probably won’t be able to be read anymore. But the nuclear sign for example won’t be changed anytime soon.

          For that matter, how much smartphone evolved in the last 10 years, in 50 or 100 years, all smartphones probably will have a Geiger Counter (or we have those implanted).

      • @DauntingFlamingo@lemmy.ml
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        11 year ago

        The oldest Mayan ruins are from 1000-800BC That’s what…~3000 years? Not bad… Will this glass be as resistant to the elements as carved rocks?

  • @satans_crackpipe@lemmy.world
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    141 year ago

    Can they work on the 30 year old code base supporting OneDrive first? How the fuck are we supposed to willingly put our personal data up for ransom through that service?

  • @Hubi@feddit.de
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    81 year ago

    I hope this will end up being available to regular consumers one day and not just as an expensive enterprise solution.

    • @GregoryTheGreat@programming.dev
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      41 year ago

      Maybe if we build it for ourselves. Looks beautifully simple. The encoding is probably a little trick but we can get there.

      Just need a laser that can make marks in glass at different depth.

      • @z00s@lemmy.world
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        11 year ago

        Doesn’t sound impossible, CD burners for home consumers would once have been thought of as an outlandish idea