• @onlinepersona@programming.dev
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    1 year ago

    I think it’s a bit crazy to create a paid service on top of a reverse engineered product that isn’t static. Indivious, NewPipe and other youtube frontends aren’t going to create a paid youtube frontend, because they know Google could kill that at any point. Google could dedicate a full team to making youtube frontends non-functional.

    Apple has a much bigger incentive to derail iMessage alternatives because they know that dumb parents have taught their kids how to live in a closed ecosystem and be slaves to Apple. 87% of USAian teenagers use Apple, which means it’s only a matter of time before Apple becomes the dominant player on the market. If you want to keep making fat stacks of cash, the best thing you can do is control the market, which means killing of competition.

    The only reason Apple would ever stop killing competitors is if it became legally and financially detrimental to do so. They’d have to reach Microsoft levels of antitrust and bad press before even considering backpedaling.

    Everyone buying their products is helping Apple along to their goal of market dominance.

    • Eggyhead
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      -11 year ago

      USAian

      If you really want to go down that road, use something like “United Statesman” or something that actually fits the language. “Americanian” is absurd and people will take you less seriously for it.

      • @crispy_kilt@feddit.de
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        21 year ago

        Spanish has it: estadounidense (unitedstatesian)

        Other than that, it’s no one’s fault but the USA’s they gave their country such a stupid name (stealing the one of the continent)

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          I really hate to break it to you, but the name “America” didn’t come from the Americans.

          (And if the person I replied to had been speaking in Spanish, I wouldn’t have had any reason to reply.)

          • @crispy_kilt@feddit.de
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            I hate to break it to you, but the name America as it was chosen by Europeans was meant to be the name of the continent.

            The name USA was chosen by unitedstatesians when creating the country. A stupid mistake. Everyone else managed to pick a name, Canada, Mexico, Chile, Argentina… but not the USA.

      • @onlinepersona@programming.dev
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        -11 year ago

        USAian reads better than USAn 🤷 And I’m not going to type out “United Statesman” every time I want to refer to something USAian like a car. “United Statesman car”.

        • Eggyhead
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          01 year ago

          “USAian” doesn’t read better than anything when it’s a made up word that looks ridiculous. Just say “a US car” or “American”.

            • Eggyhead
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              01 year ago

              lol alright then. Good luck dictating how a language operates.

                • Eggyhead
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                  11 year ago

                  No, my dude. You just seemed like a non-native speaker of English and I was trying to help you out. It’s what I do for a living. I’ll be happy to teach “USAian” to my students if it ever becomes commonplace vernacular that they would likely hear on the streets. Unfortunately since it’s kind of grammatically nonsensical and weirder to both say and understand, that might take a whole lot more effort to accomplish than you seem to think it will. Good luck though. I find linguistic evolution interesting, so I won’t stop you.

                  • @onlinepersona@programming.dev
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                    11 year ago

                    I see now where you were coming from. It would’ve helped to ask if I was a non-native speaker.

                    Nobody’s forcing anybody to say USAian. It’s a personal preference and it gets the point across.

    • @Kazumara@feddit.de
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      41 year ago

      87% of teenagers use Apple

      Do you mean US American teenagers, or North American teenagers, or who exactly? Surely that can’t be global?

        • Cethin
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          21 year ago

          The correct term for that is American by the way, not USAian.

            • Cethin
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              41 year ago

              I never said it does. I just said it’s the correct word. It’s not confusing or ambiguous. Only one country uses it. It also does represent multiple states in the americas, hence the name.

              • @onlinepersona@programming.dev
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                -31 year ago

                If that’s the correct word to you, fine, use it. I won’t. Just because one country assumes it can be eponymous with not just one, but two entire continents, doesn’t make it right, nor do I have to agree with it.

                • Cethin
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                  31 year ago

                  And I guess South African should be something else, because there are other states in southern Africa? Language doesn’t really care about being “correct” with terms. It cares about being understandable. No one knows what USAian is. Everyone knows what American is. There isn’t really any debate anywhere around what to call people from the United States of America, even among other American nations.

                  • @onlinepersona@programming.dev
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                    And I guess South African should be something else, because there are other states in southern Africa?

                    You are correct, it should be something else. To agree on what is pretty difficult though. Azania has been suggested, but there are 12 official languages that probably have their own terms. I won’t even attempt to guess how many different tribes were brutally merged into one country by imperialists when they drew the borders to call it South Africa. It wouldn’t surprise me if they did rename themselves someday.

                    Even India doesn’t want to be called India. There’s a growing movement for it to be called Bharat.

                    No one knows what USAian is

                    Funny that, I didn’t have to explain to anyone what it is because the immediate reaction by people like you was "that’s not how you say ‘American’ ".

          • @fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works
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            41 year ago

            Yeah, I mean I totally get the annoyance of American being overloaded for both US person and of the American continents, but USAian ain’t the solution lol that kind of sucks (hard to say, no history to it, etc)

              • Cethin
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                51 year ago

                American is pretty unambiguous. What are you getting it mixed up with? No one else uses it. If you hear American, do you have to run through a list of other countries asking them which they are from? Of not, it’s unambiguous.

                You could argue that it shouldn’t be the pronoun for a US citizen, but that’s a different argument than it being ambiguous.

                • @onlinepersona@programming.dev
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                  -51 year ago

                  Whatever adjective makes you feel better: appropriate, apt, fitting, correct, modest, less expansive, less assuming, less imperious, less opulent, less grandiose, less egocentric, less narcissistic

              • @IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee
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                -41 year ago

                Chileans, Californians, Texans, New Yorkers, Minnesotans, Britich Columbians, Guatemalans…all Americans

                • Eggyhead
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                  51 year ago

                  The point you’re trying to make is correct on a technical level, not a functional one. Unfortunately we can’t will languages into behaving in ways we think is ideal simply by making pointless assertions in obscure forums.

      • @ConsumptionOne@sopuli.xyz
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        51 year ago

        That stat came from an article that made the rounds a few weeks ago that cited a phone survey of 1000 or so kids in one small part of the US. Small, poorly controlled sample size, so bad data.

    • @fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works
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      01 year ago

      Yeah if Apple is willing to invest tons of money to keep using literal slaves (or at least to be intentionally ignorant about slavery in their supply chain) they aren’t going to be chivalrous about someone circumventing their intentional attempts to amp up class based marketing pressure for their apps.