Apple Music isn’t the best streaming music service — it’s just the least annoying::Competitors like Spotify and YouTube Music may be your first choice for music on Android, but you might want to reconsider
Everyone picks a streaming service for their needs. YT music has a large library bundled with ad free YT, Apple Music is a natural choice if you’re in the Apple ecosystem and Spotify exists too.
I recently switched to Tidal from Spotify and haven’t looked back. The UI is familiar enough, having lossless is really nice, and not having my phone lag whenever I open my library is great.
Then there’s the other factor of how much each streaming service pays it’s artists. To make 1000$ in revenue, this is how many streams an artist needs:
YT Music : 500,000 ($0.002 per stream)
Spotify : 314,465 ($0.00318 per stream)
Apple : 125,000 ($0.008 per stream)
Tidal : 77,882 ($0.01284 per stream)
Granted, musicians almost never make their money from streaming services. However, if an artist were to have that 314k streams on Tidal instead of Spotify, they’d make 4 times as much money.
The artist rates continually decline for every platform. In the not-to-distant future Tidal will be as shit as Spotify is now.
The number you pulled for YouTube Music is based on free users watching YouTube videos. YouTube Music streams from paying subscribers are 4x that at $0.08 per stream.
The Spotify number is also averaged across free and premium users - I’m not sure the number for premium users only but it is likely closer to what Apple and Tidal pay since those are premium-only.
The other problem though is that none of the services have implemented user-centric payments. So your money on any of the services is going to Taylor Swift, Drake and Bad Bunny no matter who you listen to because everyone gets paid based on their percentage of the total streams.
I also switched to Tidal and agree it’s a huge improvement over Spotify. The improved quality alone is worth it but I also like not having the podcast stuff pushed all the time (Tidal has none) and also the Tidal algorithm seems “worse” in that it’s weirder but it also makes it better. The Spotify algo is great if you want to hear exactly the same sounding thing all the time, but if you like to branch out and be surprised it’s terrible. Listening to Tidal radio kinda feels like listening to college radio. Weirder, not always great, but certainly more varied.
Also your top listened to artists on Tidal get a direct cut of your monthly fee if you have the top plan.
I love how no one still knows about Deezer even though it’s been around since 2007. Best bang for the buck.
Eh, I’ve given Deezer a try and it doesn’t offer anything to make it “the best”. The family plan costs more than the competition even when paid for annually, and its algorithm for radio features is worse than even Tidal and YTM.
Used Deezer for two yeers. It sucked ass, cause half the time it didnt work (deleted offline songs, had a too low limit for how many songs could be downloaded, app in offline mode was nearly useless).
In the end I switched to spotify. Only miss the mixing stuff, that was kind of nice.
I mean, FOSS YouTube music clients + FOSS downloaders and maybe a system wide adblocker can never get wrong
Google Play Music died and was resurrected as Plexamp.
Does it have a Linux app? no
Does it have a duo plan? no
Does it have a good rating on Google Play? no
Does it have a decent Windows app? last time i checked, itunes looked like an app from 2005
Windows app is pretty good these days, as is the Android app.
I use AM mainly on my PC and my Samsung Fold
Try Cider, it’s a FOSS and it works on any platform including Linux. There are others, but they are mostly just wrappers around the web app, and Cider is not.
Nah, InnerTune is the best. Has the library of YouTube music, no ads, free, can download songs as actual files (at least in a previous version, which is still available on F-Droid archive)
Also worth noting some other nice free music apps also available on F-Droid:
- SimpTube (uses YouTube Music)
- Musify (uses Spotify)
- Spotube (uses Spotify, streams the actual tracks from YouTube Music or via a Piped instance)
Simptube seems to not exist
They probably meant SimpMusic.
Yepp this is what I meant, my bad! Thanks for the correction
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Not to mention newpipe or of course the many many local storage players, Vinyl my first choice
Those are the discussions I’m interested in. YT music is making me cringe with ads between nearly every song.
I much prefer Spotify, interface is definitely more intuitive than Apple Music.
The best streaming service is my selfhosted Jellyfin. I serve me no ads and I’m 100% sure I don’t do any shady business with my data.
Apple Music? Least Annoying? Ok bud.
My Apple Music vs Spotify argument is Spotify is a shitty excuse electron app that hogs compute and battery on my mac laptop. Compare that to even iTunes and it was an easy choice.
Spotify isn’t the least bit annoying for me though? It works brilliantly and does everything I need it to do and more.
It’ll be a cold day in hell before I use an Apple product though.
- Can’t turn off album art or colorized elements changing bright colors while driving. (I just want simple buttons to press to change tracks or pause music without distracting album art). This one is legitimately dangerous
1a. The last straw for me was when they deprecated car mode entirely and insisted on even more flashy moving elements in the standard player. It became a safety hazard to use.
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Can’t combine your own music with cloud music anymore (when Spotify started, you could combine their libraries with your own music if you had something that they didn’t)
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No normalization adjustments for songs that are too loud or too quiet
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No per-device (or at all iirc?) Equalization
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Periodic check-in required every (30d last time I used the service) for offline content, meaning if you download stuff to your laptop, don’t touch it for a month, and then go on a plane you don’t have access to your music.
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Constant background app openings. App opens itself constantly to track your location, and broadcast to other devices whether or not you’re playing music. Integrated with lots of ad/tracker networks
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Quality is terrible. I dunno what it is because apparently I’m not even one of the people that can tell the difference between 128 and 256, but the same song in Plexamp at 320 vs Spotify whatever is night and day, especially on bad car speakers.
I haven’t used the service in years and that’s just off the top of my head why Spotify is terrible.
#2 would kill it for me. I have plenty of music in AM that isn’t available to stream on any service. A lot of older stuff isn’t available on streaming.
Some of these are valid, especially #6 and #7
But a lot of them, frankly, just aren’t true:
- Can’t turn off album art or colorized elements changing bright colors while driving
You can turn off the flashy moving stuff entirely with one setting, if you get distracted by a static album art image while driving then you really should be using a hardware device to control playback instead tbh
1a. The last straw for me was when they deprecated car mode entirely
Car mode is still here, and works perfectly well - in fact they’ve improved the visual clarity recently to make it even clearer
- Can’t combine your own music
They won’t host it for you, but you can absolutely combine the music on your local device with your local library
- No normalization adjustments for songs that are too loud or too quiet
There is a setting for exactly this. I personally think there’s something to be said for not modifying songs in the background though
- No per-device (or at all iirc?) Equalization
Yes there is, afaik it’s per-device only
- Periodic check-in required
Ehh, this one’s kinda fair from a business perspective - it makes sense that the platform would need to verify your subscription occasionally for licensing reasons, but I can see why this would be mildly annoying if you use it very infrequently and are eg on a plane
- Constant background app openings
I’m not sure I can say I’ve seen any issue with this, but if you really don’t like it being active in the background, you can just turn off Spotify Connect in the background in settings
- Quality is terrible
If the audio quality is audibly bad then it’s likely due to not using the very high audio quality setting, or automatic quality adjustment due to network conditions (again, you can turn this off though it may result in buffering)
Honestly, I don’t think playing music through the worst speaker you can find is a reasonable way to assess the audio quality - like yeah, no shit it’s going to be bad. “Doctor doctor, it hurts when I do this”
Tldr: just look at settings lol
I did say it had been a couple of years, and this was all true when I stopped using it a few years back.
- Yeah some album art is pretty distracting, especially when it goes from dark to light at a song switch. You can’t tell me that I’m the only one that might distract while driving.
1a.Car mode deprication in 2021 without a replacement at the time: https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/26/22803670/spotify-retiring-car-view-android-mobile-playback-auto-driving
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Yes there’s a global toggle, but if it is not to your liking, there’s no way to take X song and boost it 20%.
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Per device as in per-bluetooth, not per-app. When you have bad car speakers but good headphones you might want wildly different EQs.
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If memory serves, I did try that. It still opened itself constantly. Most people probably aren’t monitoring background activities on their phones, but it was like 15-30wakelocks/hr just to exist.
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This was with hq on. And automatic adjustment off. I can’t describe it other than flat and crunchy but there’s something to it, or at least there was in ~2021
Everyone I know uses Spotify
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Apple Music is the best music platform by far due to clean and simple focus and UI, performance, and also lyrics. Unfortunately, it still sucks in all the ways that streaming inherently sucks though, combined with its intention to suck you into the Apple world.
Apple Music is prob the only Apple service that you can sub to while mostly avoiding the rest of the Apple world
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I had a 3 month trial, that I cancelled in two days. Apple music does not play a lot of songs. Why show them to me when I’m not allowed to hear them? Youtube music works really well, and I am using an iphone!
