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I’ve seen a number of misinformed comments here complaining about a profit oriented board.
It’s worth keeping in mind that this board was the original non-profit board, that none of the members have equity, and literally part of the announcement is the board saying that they want to be more aligned as a company with the original charter of helping bring about AI for everyone.
There may be an argument around Altman’s oust being related to his being too closed source and profit oriented, but the idea that the reasoning was the other way around is pretty ludicrous.
Again - this isn’t an investor board of people who put money into the company and have equity they are trying to protect.
I thought it also had to do with him allegedly abusing his sister for decades?
Not according to any of the information currently coming out.
And it would be weird for the President to resign as well if the CEO was ousted for sexual abuse.
So what is their board here if they aren’t investors?
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted, this is a good question that not everyone knows the answer to. (It’s been answered above me, but just so we’re clear, any large organization can have a board of directors, whether they invest money or not. A board of directors isn’t necessarily “the people who have money”, it’s the people who set the direction.)
It’s a non-profit.
OpenAI is a non-profit with a board which owns the LLC which is what was invested into and makes money.
This was not the LLC board, but the non-profit board in charge of the whole thing.
Thanks for explaining! I knew about this arrangement but didn’t know the two boards work this way.
So, non-profit board members are being simply hired as employees and they don’t have to have any connection with the company as long as they meet the bylaw criteria.
Altman himself praised this non profit overseer structure before. I wonder what does he think of it now 🫣
A point of clarification, board members aren’t usually considered employees by virtue of their presence on the board. They are apart from the organization. They often have a dual role as some kind of executive in the company, though.
Oh no, anyways
This is unprecedented. They let that schmuck at Unity “retire” on a holiday but they fired Sam. Oof.
It sounds like there was a power struggle over the direction of OpenAI.
This is really big news, going to be interesting if anything leaks or if we stay in the dark. For Altman to be fired and for them to release a statement like this it has to be something drastic.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Sam Altman has been fired as CEO of OpenAI, the company announced on Friday.
Chief technology officer Mira Murati will be the interim CEO, effective immediately.
When contacted by The Verge, OpenAI’s communications department declined to comment beyond the blog post.
This is an extremely sudden turn of events as Altman has largely been the face of OpenAI, which arguably kickstarted the current AI arms race with last year’s hugely popular ChatGPT.
Altman is a co-founder of OpenAI and initially served as a co-chair of the company alongside Elon Musk.
Musk left in 2018 to avoid a conflict of interest with Tesla — he has since founded his own AI company, xAI.
The original article contains 239 words, the summary contains 112 words. Saved 53%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!
This post is unnerving
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The bot is using AI and arguably the technology of OpenAI to report on the news that a human has lost their job but has no context on what it is reporting.
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You sound very GPTy.
Autotldr bot is not using any “AI” for summarizing, just “simple” NLP :)
Won’t that still be AI just a subset of it? But I guess you mean OpenAI gpt-3/ 4 here.
Please keep in mind that I am not an expert when it comes to AI/machine learning/Natural Language Processing and have just dabbled in those a few years ago. Also, many of these terms can be confusing because of all the marketing around them.
But, in short, what I meant was that autotldr is not based on a neural network/deep learning, but “basic” language processing algorithms with simpler statistical models attached to them, if at all.
What people generally mean with AI is some kind of deep learning which is helpful for more complicated tasks like “learning” about a topic and “understanding” things, but that is not really necessary for summarizing text since language has (mostly) fixed rules. So while there is certainly some overlap in the process, simple language processing does not need “AI” - you’d call it just machine learning, of which AI is generally a subset.
You can read a little more about the sunmarization above here:
What’d he do?
Makes me wonder if he wanted to put ethical guardrails on the product that would’ve been less profitable for the board.
It’s the non-profit board, not an investor board. None of the members have equity in the company.
Yeah I’m going with the board doesn’t like the commercially tied investment deals from other companies.
I’ve worked with some non-profits… that are greedier than for-profits. The board just kinda… y’know…. Money.
…tax-free tho
Quick edit: donations make hella money and old people love to leave mills hahahaha
Unverified, but I saw some rumor about sexual abuse in his past. Look it up.
Those allegations have been floating since ~2021, I have a hard time believing they’d take emergency action on them 2-3y later.
I interpret their wording that he lied to the board repeadetly and made some unethical backdoor deals of evil.
More likely he didn’t want to be evil and all the board cares about is money
Almost certainly the opposite - it’s the board that is non-profit and Sam has been the one bringing billions of dollars of commercially-tied investment
Whatever it was it’s spicy enough that they’re trying to bury the press release in the late Friday afternoon news graveyard
Edit: even better, whatever they’re trying to distance themselves from is so important they didn’t even wait for the closing bell on the market.
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It’s worth keeping in mind the explicit mention of their key responsibility at the end, which was the original non-profit charter of “ensuring that artificial general intelligence benefits all of humanity.”
On one hand, this was posted 15 minutes before you posted this… on the other hand, this is a much clearer headline
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Not sure how to handle this,
In times of great dishonor, the Samurai would commit seppuku with their sword.
Best I can do is charcuterie with dried salami.
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Only if you post the video
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Alternatively, you can do sudoku.
But he still has to do it with the plastic knife.
My guess — and this is pure conjecture — MS canned him because Bing didn’t eat Google’s lunch.
Microsoft doesn’t have that power, and it has hurt their stock value. Their CEO’s response suggests that Microsoft and other partners didn’t know until everyone else did.
But they said it was because he wasn’t being totally honest with the board for OpenAI tho
Corps would never lie to save face or hide truths!!
Allegedly MS didn’t know until a few minutes before the announcement.
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I’m more surprised that the folks at OpenAI saw fit to fire him than I am that he committed fireable offenses.
Because he lied to them instead of for them.
But what he lied about is probably bigger news.
This has corporate PR speak all over it, but it is clear that it was circumventing the desires of the Board, and the chairman of the Board steps down as well.
The absolute hell happened?
If I had to guess, about how interested he was in keeping it non-profit in spirit. Which direction he believed in, I have no idea. I don’t know him or the board. The statement sounds like the board is leaning toward non-profit behavior, but I don’t believe a company who merely says “do no evil”.
That sucks, and weirdly sudden too. I don’t like OpenAI but I do like Altman. I saw a lot of the videos he makes and he strikes me as someone that knows what he’s doing and, despite running it as a business, genuinely cares.
It’s so alarming that he would get suddenly fired when the company is doing so well. Nobody knows what’s going on but I don’t doubt a “company board demands more profit” situation
You mean the guy who spun this all up as a Non-Profit company, then spun up an LLC for that Non-Profit to manage, then made deals with Microsoft?
Somehow his long term actions tell me, like most rich twatwaffles, you can’t actually trust what he is saying.
When the board that he answers to says he hasn’t been consistently candid, you can bet your sweet ass any soundbites you as a regular schlub have read are “not consistently candid” and you’re hearing what he wants you to hear.
But you do you on believing these chucklefucks when their actions speak loudly to the contrary.
twatwaffles and chucklefucks
You are a visionary sir. I will add these words to my vocabulary.
“Not consistently candid” means lying his arse off to the point of endangering the continued existence of the organisation.
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Thank you!! This made me laugh. TIL
I saw a lot of the videos he makes and he strikes me as someone that knows what he’s doing and, despite running it as a business, genuinely cares.
This makes his firing make more sense to me. Boards don’t want a CEO who knows what he’s doing and genuinely cares. They want a CEO who will do their bidding without question, and draw all the flak for their decisions.
Your comment was the equivalent of “I have no idea what I’m talking about”
“Capitalism sucks and thats all I know” level hot take
Nah, competent boards want a CEO that will inspire investor confidence and pull in good numbers. Something Altman was doing in an above-and-beyond fashion.
I’m sure there was something going on behind the scenes and he pissed off some important bumblefuck.
It’s the non-profit board, none of whom have equity and at the end of their announcement reiterated the importance of their original non-profit founding charter despite the spinning off of the for profit entity owned by the non-profit.
CEO? Fuck him. He’ll be just fine.
of course he will, he wasnt even getting paid
Huh??
The company is now actually being run by ChatGPT, Mira is just the face it’s hiding behind.
I asked Bard to give me a generic reason for firing a CEO.
Certainly, here are some vague reasons for firing the CEO of an AI company:
Leadership concerns: The CEO’s leadership style or personal conduct was not in line with the company’s values or culture. This could include issues such as lack of transparency, poor communication, or ethical breaches.Yup.
Bard is on copium with that last one.
No, Bard is just making a prediction based on the way CEO firings are presented in press releases. Those press releases are never the “real” reason, what we’re seeing here is the way a board would frame the firing of its CEO. “Ethical breach” is the term used when “The CEO was killing hookers for fun and WHOO-WEE we did NOT want to get any of that on us,” is not considered appropriate to tell the press.
“AI is going to take away jobs.”
“Wait… not like that.”
Oops… didnt see that coming
He got billions in his account. I dont think he cares. For them job is something to do to not get bored, I guess?
He got billions in his account
Was unaware the man has had his bank account records leaked to the public. Do you have a source for this claim?
Nope but assuming he’s broke af is pretty idiotic. He rolls wirh Musk, Branson and all.
Net worth estimates seem to be $500M - $700M
https://www.thestreet.com/investors/sam-altman-net-worth-how-does-he-make-money
Seems to be somewhere between 0.5 and 0.7 billion, which due to a quirk of the English language are technicallybillions, making OP technically not wrong ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/ceos/sam-altman-net-worth/ https://www.thestreet.com/investors/sam-altman-net-worth-how-does-he-make-money
TIL I got billions myself 😎
Lol
So if we’re all billionaires, do we need to eat ourselves?
Anxious people: We’ve been eating dead skin for ages!
Hey, nobody’s judging anyone for their kinks. Do as you please.
If everyone’s super(rich), no-one is.
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Pretty much literally not about the money for him.
He didn’t have any equity and didn’t get a salary.
So he can go and do something fun like hike the Andes for two years.
He hallucinated to the board.
I am actually very surprised. Did not see this coming.
That’s what my blind girlfriend said.
OpenAI also announced that co-founder Greg Brockman will be stepping down as chairman of the board, though he will remain at the company.
Interesting. No way this isn’t connected
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Uhh… Keep reading?
Hours after it was published, Brockman posted to X that he had quit “based on today’s news.”
Apologies, looks like that statement may have been added after the fact.
He just resigned like 30m ago.
