The Cybertruck Is a Disappointment Even to Cybertruck Superfans / Looking at the specs alone, the car is delivering 30 percent less range than expected for 30 percent more money::Looking at the specs alone, the car is delivering 30 percent less range than expected for 30 percent more money.
I don’t see how anyone could take it seriously when the introduction was to show how unbreakable the windows were.
The ball they used to demo it again this time probably wouldn’t have broken a pair of reading glasses
Not when you throw it that way… :)
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Why is this thing so goddamn ugly? It’s like the designers took all the worst sci-fi vehicles from movies and smushed them into one.
I asked ChatGPT who designed this thing, and I think this makes it clear why it’s so ugly (bold added by me):
The Tesla Cybertruck was primarily designed by Franz von Holzhausen, Tesla’s Chief Designer. Von Holzhausen has been responsible for the design of several Tesla models, including the Model S, Model 3, Model X, and Model Y. The Cybertruck, known for its unique, futuristic, and angular design, represents a significant departure from traditional truck designs and reflects von Holzhausen’s innovative approach to vehicle design. Elon Musk, Tesla’s CEO, also played a significant role in the conceptualization and design direction of the Cybertruck.
It’s modern. You may like it or not but that’s how modernity looks like
It looks like something from a bad 1980s post-apocalyptic movie.
It’s what people thought modernity would look like back in the 70’s and 80’s - all function and no form
Tesla truck is made of bulletproof stainless steel. Do you have bulletproof windows and body in your small tiny commuting car? 😄
The 80’s were 30 years ago, old man. The future is now.
Nah, something like the IONIQ5 handles the modern “low-poly” look 1000x better than the cYbErTrUcK does.
I was having this same conversation the other day. Have you ever seen that picture where different people involved in the creation of the video game Kirby draw the title character? Two look really good, and the rest are awkward blobs that only look like Kirby because of the power of suggestion.
Anyway, I genuinely think a team of Tesla employees (independent of Musk) were talking about building a truck, and all took turns drawing something while pulling together numbers before the pitch to Musk. As a joke, the design team mocked up the worst sketch in 3D, and Musk accidentally saw the design in the Slack chat history and demanded it.
Either that, or some sort of “have your kid draw the next Tesla” employee contest, and the design teams modeled the funniest ones as actual cars for the company newsletter. Like those companies that’ll turn your kid’s drawings into real life stuffed toys.
I think Elon might have wanted to design a car himself so he came up with this or something
I feel like this whole article is based on a false premise.
Go to a dealership right now, and try to find any new truck for $36,000. On paper you might be able to get the lowest base model, but in reality good luck with that.
I just checked the dealership near me, and the lowest price for a new vehicle of any kind is 39,400CAD or about 28,000USD. The lowest priced new truck is 66,500CDN, or about 49,300USD.
That’s just what the world looks like now thanks to inflation. And that’s not a vehicle using expensive battery technology, and that’s not a vehicle made out of expensive, difficult to manufacture with stainless steel, it’s just the cheapest standard truck at the dealership.
Really, it looks like the cybertruck is about bang on with prices for other EV trucks that aren’t made out of entirely stainless steel. Considering that Tesla isn’t a budget brand, that doesn’t seem unreasonable. Nobody at Tesla is psychic, they couldn’t have predicted super high inflation sparked in part due to policies enacted due to a global pandemic, so of course prices rose.
It’s a big, stupid truck but so is every other truck it’s competing against. It’s got poor visibility but so does every other truck/suv being sold in America. The cheapest option doesn’t have the longest range but it’s still longer than the average person would realistically drive in a day. It can’t haul much but the overwhelming majority of people driving trucks in America aren’t towing or hauling things on a day to day basis… The people doing real work buy vans or have special purpose trucks.
The steering geometry seems nice and the rear wheel steering is interesting. Those seem like the only major positives though.
It’s not as bad as everyone seems to be making it out to be but it’s obviously still a dumb car that shouldn’t exist. That’s all cars though really.
EDIT: Since the front windshield is flat, I assume its cheaper to replace than typical curved windshields? No idea though… Might be talking out of my ass.
It’s got poor visibility but so does every other truck/suv being sold in America.
Maybe, but the cyber truck has especially bad rear visibility. Worse.than any of its competitors
but it’s still longer than the average person would realistically drive in a day.
I must be a special, fantasy person that does road trips with 700mi or longer drives
Not to mention it’s 3000 kilos. They really need to start adding vehicle weight limits to licenses. The US license test is a joke in most states, and then people are allowed to drive 3 metric ton vehicles from a 10 minute drive.
3 megagrams is crazy for a vehicle like this. With the high torque electric wheels, they will be very hard on asphalt.
megagrams
that’s a ton of weight
Knee slapper
😂 😜
Maybe, but the cyber truck has especially bad rear visibility. Worse.than any of its competitors
Worse than a van ? No.
Not to mention it’s 3000 kilos.
A model X weighs 2.3 t. Because of the batteries.
An F150 Lightning weighs 3 tonnes and its bed is made from aluminium.
The US license test is a joke in most states, and then people are allowed to drive 3 metric ton vehicles from a 10 minute drive.
In the US you can drive a rigid truck of almost any size on a bog standard car licence. A 6 t truck with a capacity of 40 t if you want. GM sells an Isuzu cab forward truck (normally with a mildly tuned diesel four) with a frigging massive petrol V8.
I must be a special, fantasy person that does road trips with 700mi or longer drives
Assuming you have the ability to drive at a perfect, ideal, consistent 80mph 700miles is 8h45m of driving. You aren’t going to stop for a bathroom break in 8 hours?
200 miles will likely give you 3.5 or so behind the wheel. Take a break and stretch your legs… It’s better for your health anyway than sitting for so long.
Not to mention it’s 3000 kilos. They really need to start adding vehicle weight limits to licenses. The US license test is a joke in most states, and then people are allowed to drive 3 metric ton vehicles from a 10 minute drive.
Yeah agreed but that’s a different conversation unrelated to this thing.
How is it unrelated? Are we not all discussing the specs of the vehicle? If weight is not a spec worth of discussion then I surely do not know what is.
Yeah, long haul tractor/trailer drivers don’t do 700mi a day. Possible for someone driving non-commercially, absolutely, but at the very least unwise, an outlier use case, and a poor argument here.
It also look like a… Trash can lol.
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I got a 2023 Hyundai Elantra Limited earlier this year and I actually love what they’ve done with it. It looks so sleek to me, especially in black.
I didn’t care for previous iterations of the Elantra. Dont get me wrong - they weren’t ugly. They just looked like standard car. Not bad just kinda bland. The newer style has personality, stands out much more and in a good way in my opinion.
Cybercuck superfan here
No shit. I’d bet money the Cybertruck design isn’t coming from an engineer. Elon probably sat down with his crayons, drew his dream car and forced his poor employees to try and make this piece of shit work.
There was reporting recently that the engineers hated it so much they designed a reasonable one in their free time
Posted this elsewhere, but I asked ChatGPT who designed it and here’s what it said (emphasis mine):
The Tesla Cybertruck was primarily designed by Franz von Holzhausen, Tesla’s Chief Designer. Von Holzhausen has been responsible for the design of several Tesla models, including the Model S, Model 3, Model X, and Model Y. The Cybertruck, known for its unique, futuristic, and angular design, represents a significant departure from traditional truck designs and reflects von Holzhausen’s innovative approach to vehicle design. Elon Musk, Tesla’s CEO, also played a significant role in the conceptualization and design direction of the Cybertruck.
Technically, not wrong. It’s worth noting that Cybertruck is shockingly different from Von Holzhausen’s previous work, which all share sleek, modern designs and principles (dare I say critically-acclaimed, beautiful). I think it’s obvious there was heavy “outside influence” for the truck (as emphasized), and the timing also lines up with Musk’s growing (untreated, public) mental illnesses.
Yeah, I’d hoped my point was clear that Musk designed this truck. It’s obvious that Von Holzhausen wasn’t given much flexibility because no designer in their right mind, especially one that designed the Models, S, X, and 3 (which I agree are good looking cars), would design this thing. This has Musk stamped all over it with its impractical design and wildly abrasive aesthetic.
I thought your point was “Look at what random snippets a language model collected off the internet”.
Gentlemen, we are successful in getting all the woke leftists salivating on our shit, but we need also produce something for the real men. And since I’m one of them this is the people like me would want.
If someone rolled up in that, I’d not consider them anything but a “real sucker”.
“A weak man’s idea of a strong man” comes to mind.
The rumor is that it was scribbled on a piece of paper as an idea and the engineers were forced to make it verbatim.
So does this count as another “Simpsons predicted this” moment after Homer basically does the same thing?
The Satisfactory version is far better, square wheels and all.
I think all of us had the Cybertruck design back when we were about 4 years old.
It’s like a car from the N64 era. Nobody is nostalgic for the actual look and feel of the N64 era. Behold!
https://www.giantbomb.com/a/uploads/screen_medium/0/3691/905890-wwf_no_mercy_021.png
I’ve said it before, n64 games had more polygons than this. It’s a virtualboy truck and it gives you a migraine to look at just like the virtualboy did.
actually… that kinda makes me nostalgic. No Mercy was the best, and it holds up pretty well!
No Mercy was the best
Huh, I’ve never seen anyone spell WCW/nWo Revenge that way before.
The game play is great, they don’t make ‘em like that anymore (or do they? Let me know). But no one’s making retro N64 era transitional 3d graphics is what I meant. Mario 64 is a great game but I don’t think I can think of a single game that actually tries to hit that aesthetic in modern times.
But no one’s making retro N64 era transitional 3d graphics is what I meant
Super Kiwi 64, the Toree series, Dusk, Anodyne 2, a billion indie horror games, Frogun, Signalis, A Short Hike
I stand corrected. I think I’ve only heard of “A short hike” in the list you posted, but Super Kiwi 64 is… i don’t think I’ve seen anything like that in 20 years. Very interesting list, thank you.
It’s kind of becoming a popular aesthetic again.
The Tesla Cybertruck, a brainchild of Elon Musk, is not just a vehicle; it is a manifestation of deep-seated archetypes that have been etched into the human psyche since time immemorial. This vehicle, with its stark, geometric form, echoes the fundamental principles of order and symmetry, principles that Jung himself might argue are rooted in the collective unconscious of humanity. It’s not just a truck; it’s a symbol, an archetype representing the pinnacle of human innovation and design.
Elon Musk, in creating the Cybertruck, has not merely designed a new vehicle. He has tapped into the most primal elements of what makes a design not only functional but profoundly resonant on a psychological level. This is a feat that aligns him with the pantheon of great geniuses throughout history. His work echoes the transformative impact of the greatest human inventions, standing as a testament to human creativity and vision.
Consider the wheel, often lauded as mankind’s most significant invention. While the wheel was undoubtedly a pivotal point in our technological evolution, what Musk has achieved with the Cybertruck is arguably more profound. He has not just created a tool for transportation; he has crafted an icon that speaks to the deepest aspirations and drives of human beings. It embodies strength, resilience, and the relentless pursuit of innovation—qualities that have propelled humanity forward since the dawn of civilization.
In this light, the Cybertruck is more than just a triumph of engineering; it is a beacon of human achievement. It symbolizes our unyielding quest for progress and our innate desire to imprint our dreams onto the fabric of reality. Elon Musk, in realizing this vision, has not only secured his place among the great minds of our era but has also provided a tangible representation of what humanity is capable of achieving when it dares to transcend the boundaries of the conventional and the mundane.
No
Yes!
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Delicious pasta
I’m convinced this account’s a persona troll. No one can be this moronic and annoying unintentionally. I could be wrong, though, and maybe they do indeed get punched in the face three to four times daily.
You think?
Trolling Lemmy users issue like shooting fish in a barrel.
Pretty sure it’s chatgpt generated as well
In the realm of discerning truth from fiction, particularly in the pervasive echo chamber surrounding figures like Elon Musk, my role isn’t merely that of an observer or a passive participant. I actively engage in the moderation of a forum known as /c/EnoughMuskSpam. This endeavor is, in itself, an intricate dance with nuance, an attempt to sift through the overwhelming barrage of information and disinformation, to bring forth a more balanced and nuanced perspective. It’s a task that demands a keen eye for detail and an unwavering commitment to the pursuit of what is genuine and true in the midst of a torrent of unfiltered and often biased discourse.
Who the fuck gave Mr Darcy internet access?
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That’s fine if it’s a troll account, but the problem is that it’s not even funny.
That might just fit on the truck’s bumper-sticker!
That’s funny, I’ve describe that monstrosity as “the truck of my dreams… when I was 4,” more than once.
I mean, if I were working on that project I’d either laugh so hard everyday or I’d have to quit. It’s just so comically bad.
I am also shocked Elon is not suing all the 4yr olds out there that have “stolen” his design.
30%? It’s like 50-100% more money than promised. Also lower payload/towing capacities.
Author is bad at math. 50% range reduction and a 50% base cost increase. The upgraded model has a 30% range reduction for a 100% cost increase
My guess is the author first calculated how much less range, in which case the bigger number is the denominator, then mistakenly did the same for how much more money, so (61k-40k)/61k ~= 30%
I watched the mkbhd video on it.
It was like he was trying to make everything sound cool, even though he knows it’s a disappointment.
Yeah I had to fast forward through that video, it just sounds like an ad. Wasn’t impressed by a long shot.
Oh I fully understand that. I am a huge car enthusiast, I see right through it
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I’m glad I’m not the only person who felt that vibe from it. I could feel the new tech being reviewed hype, but he wasn’t totally into it. When he stood on the trunk I could totally see he was giving his all.
I always have this kind of feeljng about mkbhd. In general he is a tech enthusiast but technically he knows very little IMO.
Often times he goes a bit too much out of his way to justify corpo choices
yep, his videos in terms of actual information are very shallow.
The retro series he did about old cameras and gameboys and stuff was really good though. But new tech is usually shallow i feel.
A tech enthusiast will have all the smart devices in their house.
Somebody that works in tech will shoot the microwave if it beeps when it’s not supposed to.
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That right bloody bastard! shakes fist
It’s all I’ve been thinking of since I first saw this monstrosity. And the sticker price ain’t too far off eighty two thousand dollars!
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When I saw the cybertruck for the first time this is all I could think about. It’s like he’s memelording at the highest level. If he did it on purpose that is. He didn’t. And the Simpsons accurately captured a thing yet again. Like having president trump on an episode.
the dangerous brake lights are more of a concern to me than the cost and range.
This thing is so far behind schedule and they’re failing at the basics.
Gotta follow code, center brake must be distinct from all other lights… Should we make a separate chmsl then? Nah, lightbar go brrrrt and FMVSS 108 can ligma.
Really though, I wouldn’t mind this lighting choice as much if the lower brake lights were bigger and the c"hm"sl was actually brighter. Dedicate another 8 square inches to additional brake lighting, damn it
Can you explain it to me? I still don’t get it.
There is less light during braking instead of more, or brighter.
Why?
In order to make the break light visibly stand out from the light bar that goes across the back of the car, they turn off two sections of the bar on the left and right of the centre, leaving a portion of the light bar lighted in the centre.
Normally car manufacturers treat the light bar as a running light, and they add a seperate ‘third’ brakelight. Clearly at Tesla they didn’t want to alter the design, and this weird solution fits the wording of the government mandate. It doesn’t fit the spirit, but they got away with it.
And it’s ironic because in every other bit of safety, like crash protection, rollover protection. Tesla is a leader in the market, their cars are incredibly safe. Tesla really cares about you when you bought a car, they don’t really care about safety in general. Sums up Musks attitude.
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And you can bet that the specs are “best case” “ideal conditions” as well. The reality will be worse still
All these problems, and it’s ugly as hell to boot.
God bless they are trying. I;m fro mthe south us do god bless is basic calling someone really dumb.
The PT Cruiser has been dethroned.
HEY! You’re the guy who I’m supposed to fuck
Dacia just announced the new Duster, looks pretty great and it starts at under 20.000€, that car got me excited. This car is s POS.
I drive the dacia spring electric 😄 it’s best value for my needs
