*Laughs with RSS feeds, Invidious redirects, Newpipe and Sponsorblock.
And freetube is making it so much better.
Something I didn’t even realize I wanted was to not have some eyeball-pulling algorithm recommending things to me. It’s lovely.
Yep. Personally use Piped, but it’s the same idea. It basically saves me hours of watching useless videos everyday.
Now if only Piped wouldn’t error out and be unusable for 10 minutes at a time every couple hours…
It doesn’t for me, though.
I have been trying to figure out why since I started using it… searches spin forever, videos spin forever, some videos just spit “Error 1003” immediately, and then they become accessible 10 minutes later. I even tried filing an issue to no avail. I may end up looking for other alternatives.
Have you tried changing the instances? Some instances simply perform better than others.
I have, but the ones I tried weren’t much better. I looked again and there’s a few new ones, so I’ll try those and update if they work faster/more consistently.
That’s why I’ve been using YouTube without logging in and if using in browser, I have the cookies autodelete after I close the page to start new each time.
It never really recommended me what I wanted anyway. I guess the algorithm doesn’t work on me.
What freetube?
Google it and join us in video paradise
I don’t care. I was giving you the opportunity to inform others about something you think is cool. You blew it.
What about sponsor block?
Freetube has Sponsorblock built-in.
Most of the channels I watch with inline sponsor roll from the creator, they do a good job, and I am entertained by it.
You have the option to disable sponsorblock in freetube.
Obtrusive ads are frustrating.
Perfectly integrated, entertaining, on-brand ads from creators I appreciate? No problem.
My biggest problem with the ads is that it’s louder than the thing I’m watching, oftentimes a lot.
They are sometimes an hour long and I gotta press the skip ad button with my nose cause it’ll take me ten minutes or more to clean up.
I have no love for the automatic gadgets where you can speak your commands. They get suggested by my coworkers quite a bit.
They want too much for what is ultimately hours of people playing chess.
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Theyre also blatant scams. Whenever I accidentally open youtube on my phone when clicking a link the ad is literally claims of free money using ai voices of celebrities, “cures” for blindness that are selling watered down bleach, and other scams
Yeah any time I scroll through YT Shorts (Revanced doesn’t block those ads rn) 99+% of the ads are just the “This new government program gives everyone $6400/month trust this bad AI voice of Steve Harvey.” scams.
It just doesn’t play on my Firefox anymore.
Open your videos in Incognito mode, the block is cookie-based. I open YT on my browser in normal mode to see all my subscriptions, then open the videos in incognito with adblock enabled.
I got no issues whatsoever. Are you using any browser addons besides uBlock origin? I’ve been using ghostery for quite some time (which also has an ad-suppression engine) and that cocked up with youtube. Removed it and now I can use it as always. Firefox 120.0.1.
Privacy Badger is better than Ghostery anyway.
Instead of using a commercial server, it build its own anti-tracking list over time.
Made by a non-profit digital rights group.
And it works fine on Youtube.
Good information. I will remove it.
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Curious
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Despite their wasted efforts, it just doesn’t matter. Circumventing all this is still too easy. Only the impatient are doomed.
Well that’s only fair.
It already made it worse for non-adblock users.
You had me in the first half. Ngl
I’m 3 hours late to make this same joke
Sadly it’s not a joke.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Google has admitted its efforts to discourage the use of ad blockers now includes delaying the start of videos – a deliberate “suboptimal viewing” experience, as the corporation put it.
Earlier this year, YouTube began interrupting videos for those using advert blockers with a pop-up encouraging them to either disable the offending extension or filter, or pay for YT’s ad-free premium tier.
In a statement to The Register, Google admitted it was intentionally making its content less binge-able for users unwilling to turn off offending extensions, though this wasn’t linked to any one browser.
To be clear, Google’s business model revolves around advertising, and ad blockers are specifically called out as being in violation of its terms of service.
Google told us users who have uninstalled their ad blockers may continue to experience temporary delays loading videos, though the issue should resolve itself after “refreshing their browser.”
As we reported earlier this month, the search giant will be pushing ahead with a planned API change in June that will render legacy Chrome extensions – including ad blockers – useless unless they are overhauled.
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Are they making it worse than ads make it?
Not yet!
We’ll still figure out ways to get around ads. So suck it Google.
Are they, though? I’ve been using Firefox and uBlock Origin for years and I’ve not had an issue other than needing to manually update my filters three times since this started.
Yeah, however “worse” it is for adblock users, it can’t compare to how awful the ads are.
Exactly. I’ve spent 15 seconds of my life overcoming this three times. Click, click, click.
You’d be surprised how sensitive normies are regarding 3 additional clicks.
For us tech literate folks it’s a regular sunday but they are literally raging internally if they need another 5 clicks more than usual.Lol quite true
The proven reason why you can’t beat crowd sourcing in the millions.
It doesn’t seem to be working for me. I’ve never been blocked for using ad blockers. It’s still the same speed it’s always been. I have all these work arounds just waiting to be used that I haven’t even had to actually try.
Are they only doing this shit to like 12 people who write articles about it? Why wouldn’t it be globally done all at once for everyone?
Yes, they are rolling these changes out in stages to make it harder for the internet to collectively address the issue.
Trust me, you will get hit eventually.
It doesn’t seem to be making it harder; shit’s in the news all the time and damn near every discussion on those articles has work arounds mentioned constantly.
If it ever does hit me, as previously stated, I have several solutions already lined up. Not least of which is simply using Piped. Which I could just use now, even without getting screwed… 🤔
That’s the point my friend. The articles and the resolutions are mudying the water. Which is easier:
Finding one post that states “on October 12th, my adblocker stopped working and the resolution was to update the block lists.”
Searching three months of varied news articles all related to the issue and with completely different resolutions.
Personally I don’t watch it in the Browser instead I use the AndroidTV app.
Amd I am patient in that regard. Can’t scare me with a 5sec delay.
Why can’t people just stop using google? Genuinely curious
Because most alternatives aren’t nearly as functional due to them dominating the market.
Yes alternate platforms with good level of UX exists. But without content its no good. YouTube - Peertube Google maps - Organic maps & OSMAnd (open street maps) Reddit - Lemmy (bigger is better)
Google Maps actually sucks for things like hiking and trails, there’s a lot of better alternatives like Maps.me.
For the others, maybe. But YouTube? It’s strength is in the sheer amount of content. It’s going to take a lot of time and resources to create and host that content on the fediverse.
It is frightfully expensive to host video content. YouTube would cost Billions per year to run.
I always wonder about this. I pay only a few bucks per month for Nebula. I highly suspect Nebula is running at a loss.
Not necessarily. Nebula operates at a far, far smaller scope, with an emphasis on quality of videos over quantity, and every user is a paid user. If every user of YouTube was paying a couple bucks per month, they’d be making in the high tens of billions of dollars of revenue per year, several times more than they do with ads. Plus YouTube has a ridiculously huge amount of essentially worthless videos because literally anyone can upload a 10 hour video, so surely their hosting costs are higher per user than Nebula.
Oh right, I somehow forgot about that.
Subscriptions are really lucrative. Iirc most ads pay like 0.1-0.5 cents per view, so you’d need to watch an insane amount of videos to equal the cost of a $2 subscription. I could probably make a site that brings in money if I had 5 $2 subscribers and a half 100 medium quality vids. Start scaling that up and it can be really profitable while offering subscribers a fair shake.
There’s no alternative to youtube that isn’t complete garbage
By and large, that’s where the content is.
So what is equal or better alternative than Google Maps, Youtube and Google Search?
OpenStreetMap instead of Google Maps (OSM would be even better if more people used and actively contributed mapping data to it), no real youtube alternative yet (but see Piped/Invidious, Peertube, and Odysee), and there’s plenty of alternative search engines like Duckduckgo, Brave search (has its own index), etc
there is no such “better” alternative. how could we compare a company that has been digging up their user data and built something with it, vs some community or even a solo developer who build something out of nowhere without collecting or selling data?
but, what are the alternative?
Google Maps
- OpenStreetMap, is not as complete as Google Map, the amount of places won’t be the same. but it’s enough to help you navigating from a district to another district, and use much lower resource too
YouTube
- Odysee, couldn’t explain, think of it like YouTube
- Rumble, couldn’t explain, think of it like YouTube
- PeerTube, a fediverse software where you can upload videos and do livestream, you own your data
- Piped, NewPipe, PipePipe, Invidious are just alternative frontend for YouTube, its good if you are watching an exclusive content from their platform. But why do we keep letting YouTube has our data?
Google Search
wow, really?
- DuckDuckGo, controversial, but enough
- Brave Search, controversial, honestly aint using it
- Searx, host it yourself, you own your data
and hey, why didn’t you mention about the browser, mails, and many more? There is firefox, tuta, and much more.
I started ditching google apps last spring and my “alternatives” are: bing/apple maps, invidious, and SearXNG. I self-host the last two to keep even more control of my data.
I’ve been using duckduckgo for half a year already they’ve became quite good compared to Google search, Google maps alternative is any popular maps app just try what’ll fit your tastes, but YouTube is certainly don’t have alternatives YET just because libre alternatives though exist but not yet in shape enough (basically we need datahoarders who’ll hoard and host whole youtube to libre alternatives such as framatube and others) for now we can only rely to custom frontends such as clipious, piped and others and custom apps of course
Revealed preferences. As much as people won’t admit it, these services do provide legitimate value, and they also cost a lot of money to operate.
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They are a business that makes money off of ads. Nothing to see here.