It’s Time to Ditch Evernote for One of These Alternatives::undefined
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I love Joplin, https://joplinapp.org/
Open source, encryption, features rich, sync across devices, what’s not to like?
I use this and it’s hooked into my nextcloud. Good to go.
what’s not to like? Poor ui, bad syncing. Good software, not perfect.
One question I have - is it able to be stored in plaintext, meaning I could version control it with git to share with a team? I wouldn’t be interested in security in that case, just the ability to keep notes collaboratively without having to pay for a locked proprietary hosting solution.
That’s the big criteria I had last time I looked into this and I didn’t find anything. I don’t know why I missed joplin, but I don’t remember seeing it.
I could see myself implementing that via API calls into the app to write my own git repo out of the data. Not sure if joplinapp or any of these apps have APIs, but I would hope so.
You can sync in a bunch of different ways that you don’t have to pay for, but I’m not sure about git. I’ve used Nextcloud, OneDrive and syncthing. You can even host your own Joplin based server, might be docker only, I haven’t tested it yet.
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Who is still using Evernote in 2023? Everyone I know is using either Notion or Google Keep.
It is kinda hard to move on when you have hundreds of notes you know… I still haven’t moved, but I have been using Obsidian only locally for so long.
you do not know any sane ppl it seems.
they are not using google keep, they are just too dumb to make decisions for another app or use notion because the other mamals in the herd use it. don’t be like that. help them evolve into proper humans.
I am but I have less than 50 notes and I like the cloud sync feature for 2 devices.
I’ve exported my notes and imported them into Obsidian but it lacks the cloud sync and up to 2 devices, for free anyway.
Never heard of Notion but I’ll give that a shot. Thanks!
I’m giving Obsidian a try and I’m liking it, but I still use freebie Notion for a lot of work things.
I do ~6-12 month contracts, and have found that publishing notion pages is a really easy way to share stuff quickly with the team and keep it live-update-able by all parties. That feature suits some fast-paced environment needs.
I never really used evernote tho. I think i first tried it years ago before they allowed dark mode, so it automatically failed.
My only real complaint with Obsidian is the lack of cloud service functionality. I understand why, (because it would directly compete with their paid cloud service) but it’s just another subscription to pay. I’d happily pay a one-time fee to be able to use my own cloud service like Google Drive, OneDrive, or iCloud. But everything is Software as a Service these days, so lifetime purchases are getting more and more rare.
If you really want, you can use almost any cloud-based solution that allows you to sync folders, with some caveats.
I use Obsidian with my Google Drive; it took me about 5 minutes to set up, and it works like a charm now. However, you need to set it up on every device you plan on using for synchronization. Also, you cannot work on the same document on two devices simultaneously. Otherwise, it works as you’d expect.
It’s definitely messier than the Obsidian cloud, but for my needs, syncing it via Google Drive is more than enough.
I’ve been trying it out for the last week or so as well looking to replace OneNote and this is the only issue I’m having with it too. I have it in my Nextcloud and can view notes on my devices but not create/edit them (I believe this is due to a permission issue with Nextcloud but haven’t been able to dig too far into it yet). Other than that issue I love it so far.
There’s a custom extension to sync Obsidian with a Git repository if you’re familiar with that. Let’s you sync up your notes as long as you have an Internet connection and access to whatever source control you use.
I’d happily pay a one-time fee to be able to use my own cloud service like Google Drive, OneDrive, or iCloud.
You can do that without paying. Obsidian vaults are just plaintext files on your disk. Just make a vault in your GDrive/OneDrive/iCloud sync folder and it’ll be synced.
There’s likely a extra hoop or two to jump through if you want mobile access, but it’s not too much extra effort.
Unless I misunderstood “cloud service functionality”, an Obsidian vault can be placed almost anywhere on the file system. For instance, a remote/WebDAV drive or even the Dropbox/iCloud Drive/Google Drive directory.
Migrating is as easy as moving the vault directory from one location to another, and pointing Obsidian to it.
As always, on iOS, there are some caveats as it lacks a traditional file system. So, the Obsidian app cannot access the vault directory on, say your Dropbox. But there are workarounds for it, like hosting the vault on a remote Git repository - which is what I ended up doing. Of course, this is a non-issue on Android.
Obsidian has a help page that goes in detail about what I just said.
As for the Git repository workaround, I referred to this article to arrive at my current workflow.
As an aside, I would like to touch upon my experience with using the inbuilt sync on apps like Agenda and Joplin - both offering syncing using iCloud and Dropbox while the latter offering a whole lot more. It is a flaky experience at best, wherein a significant number of notes never really sync between the devices. This forces me to use my phone to view a particular note while my computer for another. This is where the plain text file foundation for apps like Obsidian and Logseq wins me over.
Syncthing-ing the vault works for me. P2p instead of cloud.
Not me having never actually heard of Evernote…
Unless you were into productivity applications 8-12 years ago I’m not surprised.
I was pretty happy with EverNote until it started to feel like they were ransoming my content against sudden price hikes and enshittifying reductions in basic function Fk those guys
They list Notion, but IMO Obsidian is the better path. Lack of offline access to data is a big risk to using Notion, and what made me switch to Obsidian after being bit by internet access issues keeping me from being able to use my notes during a critical meeting. Hard no for Notion ever since.
I use Obsidian for a mind map but Notion for project/life management.
That depends. If Notion goes down that’s a problem. If you can’t access Notion because YOUR internet is down, I don’t see you being productive at all. The issue is moot as Notion syncs everything locally, so you can access your latest notes. You just can’t push any changes to the cloud until you have internet again.
The notes being sync’d locally is exactly what would have allowed me to remain productive for that meeting. It sounds like Notion has this ability today, which is good to hear. In this example local access wasn’t yet an option. This was a few years ago though, and I’ll stop bringing this up as a gap since it no longer applies.
Don’t go to Notability. They went full asshole at the top of this last semester. Changed the entire interface as people were starting their first week of class. They nuked features that made note taking for class nice. They clearly don’t respect their users and will most likely do the same thing again.
I use the
marksmanlanguage server with my neovim configuration. It makes a navigable wiki-ish system ., especially when you set it up withcompletion.wiki.style = "file-path-stem"in the.marksman.toml( see: here for what that does.This, plus syncthing or git, works for syncing .
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Same, and I was a paying customer.
If you change your business model that much and cut out all free, that’s a serious red flag.
Ummm… I’m pretty sure I pay zero and just logged in yesterday after like a year.
Recently? They basically killed my free account yesterday. You can only have about 50ish notes now for free and 1 notebook
plaintext .txt
Pencil/paper
Lots of mentions for Obsidian. I’ll throw in my favorite for the past few years that’s similar: Logseq! Check it out!
Obsidian is a godsend. The sheer number of plugins gives you basically anything you could want.
It not being open-source is pretty much my only complaint lol
I’m really sad that they’ve confirmed they aren’t interested in open source for Obsidian either :(
No good way to use it across multiple devices is my deal breaker for obsidian.
You need Obsidian sync for that. It works awesome. It’s not free.
I’ve been using Syncthing for this purpose. My notes are synced between a desktop, laptop, Android phone, and Android tablet. It took me forever to finally take the time to try Syncthing, and it’s been nearly flawless.
Logseq if anyone is wondering about open source alternative.
Also Anytype, but it lacks plugin functionality
For now. Understandable though - its nearly a brand new project as far as a project of this scale goes, and opening up the codebase for contributions or plugins this early can very quickly derail or redirect any OSS project.
weird that it isn’t on F-droid
It is on F-droid if you add the Izzydroid repo to the app.
Is there a plugin that lets me get rid of huge wasted whitespace on either side of the doc?
Just turn this option off in the Editor settings.
Oh sick
Sounds like you’re talking about the readable line length setting. That’s an option you can turn off in the default settings of the app.
I am currently selfhosting and trying Trilium, looks good so far
Looks like Windows 10 version of OneNote. I use OneNote daily.
I used Evernote religiously five years ago. But I left it for OneNote as well. No issues since.
Trillium lets you run arbitrary JavaScript, plugging into their APIs. It lets you do some cool stuff that you otherwise couldn’t with OneNote. If you do need something more powerful than OneNote, and admittedly most people don’t, I’d recommend downloading trillium and checking out the sample JS code that the developer wrote.
Trilium is great. It has a copy of excalidraw with history which is nice. You can also automate things inside of it with scripting
Came to say this. Been loving my Trilium instance.
Simplenote is also great and cross platform.
What happened to Evermote? 😂 I used it so much when u was in uni, so sad
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Holy shit, $170 a year for pro? Who on Earth thinks it’s worth that? SAAS is generally an infuriating model, but I definitely think I get $100 worth of use out of Office 365 over the course of a year. Evernote is just not that useful.
In other words, the market is nearly saturated now, and Evernote makes its money with business people and institutions who often adhere to the “don’t change a working system” principle regarding their “tools.” Most of them will just keep paying if the functions are needed and already integrated.
It’s a model most of these types of companies adopt sooner or later if they are for profit, and investors see the potential of this business as almost exhausted. It’s: grow, establish, grip, and squeeze.
Ah yes, the good ol’ extortion system: “Nice data you have here, it would be a shame if something happened to it.”
And make it difficult to export the data for another system migration.
They have just been bloating the software continually with useless features as well over the years, the android client became so bloated it was basically unusable for taking quick notes. I was a user for 13 years, after the last price increase I imported everything to Joplin about a year ago and am very happy with it.
The app literally freezes for me now there is so much crap in it.
I mostly ditched them many years ago because of privacy concerns (or lack thereof.) Around when I stopped using Dropbox too (same reason.)
They also started annoying the users on every load with “deals” to buy their paid version. And they do that shitty thing where they switch the intuitive nature of the yes and no buttons.
Oh wow feels bad :/
