• @MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Apple App Store, Apple Music store, Apple Movies store, Apple Television store and uhhh Apple News. Checkmate EU

    Really though, claiming your Apple App Store on 5 different hardware categories that you own excludes you from your monopoly is some bonzo horseshit. Can’t wait for the response on this one.

    • @Patch@feddit.uk
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      1321 year ago

      We don’t have a monopoly on one class of device, we have monopolies on five different classes of device. That’s definitely different and better!

      • @whofearsthenight@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        This is a fairly fundamental misunderstanding of anything related to monopoly or anti-trust law. Maybe, maybe the iPhone, and even then it’s a stretch. edit: at least in the US.

    • stown
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      111 year ago

      Still just one app store. The others are media stores.

  • @cjf@feddit.uk
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    741 year ago
    • App Store for iPhone
    • App Store for iPad
    • App Store for Apple Watch
    • App Store for Mac
    • App Store for Apple TV

    I guess if this gets argued correctly it means Apple could technically get away with not opening up the iPad, Apple TV and Apple Watch to accept other stores (Mac already lets you install apps directly from developers). I can see this still letting Apple continue to have the stranglehold over their ecosystem.

    I doubt this will change much though. We all know the EU were specifically thinking about the iPhone which needs opening up.

    • TimeSquirrel
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      Mac already lets you install apps directly from developers

      I just find this language interesting. How a computer now “lets” you install non-walled garden software, as if that hasn’t been the default behavior for personal computers for over 40 years since the beginning.

      • @cjf@feddit.uk
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        271 year ago

        I get what you’re saying and I hate that I had to write it like that. Was saying it to point out that Mac’s just aren’t as locked down as other Apple devices so won’t be subject to the EU ruling anyway.

        The entire argument is stupid anyway.

        • @ABCDE@lemmy.world
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          51 year ago

          They do limit you without a certain (hidden) key press if the developer isn’t on a trusted list.

          • @Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi
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            AFAIK it uses certificates for that, kinda like a more aggressive form of Windows’ User Account Control.

    • firecat
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      -91 year ago

      It won’t pass, they were all built with Swift Programming and Apple owns it. This can also be said about all Apple apps in the play store, the requirement for Swift is unavoidable.

      • @current@lemmy.ml
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        101 year ago

        Uhhh what? Swift is just one of the languages you can use to make native UI for Apple devices and interact with their API.

        • firecat
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          Yes but you’ll get problems during uploads. It’s like Google forcing you to use Android Studio instead of verifying by other means. That’s why people often go to pay others because they don’t want to mess with the verification process.

  • Captain Aggravated
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    181 year ago

    So let me get this straight.

    The EU is finding Apple in breach of their antitrust laws, and requiring Apple to allow third party apps on their platform, like how Android devices can install Fdroid or…can non-Samsung devices install the Galaxy Store? Their argument about why they shouldn’t have to do that is “we actually have multiple app stores”, at least partially counting MacOS, iPadOS and iOS as separate platforms that just so happen to have converging internal technology (they’re all ARM-based platforms now), branding and UI. Why do lawyers get to say irrelevant shit without repercussions?

  • Savaran
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    591 year ago

    “Oh thank you for letting us know so we can verify that all five have been opened up. Wouldn’t want to miss one”

    • @mlg@lemmy.world
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      121 year ago

      damn this brought back memories of installious and that other one I forgot the name of lol

  • @flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
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    791 year ago

    “Your honor, we actually operate 5 different app stores…that all just so happen to be called the same thing, share the same backend infrastructure, etc. With what you end up being able to see device side depending on device metadata. But they are 5 different stores, we swear”… /s

    Or something like that.

  • Ghostalmedia
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    151 year ago

    Then why do developers manage all of those apps through a single experience?

    • @hedgehog@ttrpg.network
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      171 year ago

      And why can consumers purchase an app on their iPhone and have it automatically installed on their iPad?

      Are iPhone apps that don’t have iPad versions that you install on your iPad anyway coming from the iPhone App Store or from the iPad App Store?

      • @bamboo@lemm.ee
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        51 year ago

        Apple silicon Macs also let you install iOS/iPadOS apps. Which App Store is it then?