TikTok has been pushing Chinese propaganda to millions of users in Europe: analysis::More than 1,000 ads from Chinese state media outlets have run on European users’ TikTok feeds since October 2022, according to the platform’s latest ad library update that was analyzed by Forbes.

  • @Korkki@lemmy.world
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    -22 years ago

    ooh It’s another american TIktok hitpiece, where Americans blame the Chinese for same exact things that they are guilty of. I still can’t believe how butthurt some US elites are about TikTok. The worlds social media monopoly is such precious thing to them.

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        Cgtn can be pretty alright to be fair. Especially if you want a more dry approach to science news instead of sensationalised shit. It’s much less entertaining though, which I guess is what you should expect from something that isn’t running for the sake of clicks/views.

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      202 years ago

      That and right-wing propaganda. So much propaganda.

      Just click on any video from a “liberal media” outlet, (like CNN), and look at the comments. (Or the dislike count if you have Return YouTube Dislike installed.)And then look at a video from Fox News. Nothing but praise for them, while the “liberal” videos are filled with so much hate from right-wing trolls.

      If you didn’t know any better, you could be lead to believe than 98% of Americans are Republican.

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        22 years ago

        Nothing but praise for them, while the “liberal” videos are filled with so much hate from right-wing trolls.

        Not sure if it’s related. I’ve know a few channels that have non-political, but questionable/debatable content, and they have absolutely nothing but praises in comments. My bet is that they are using mod tools to delete/hide everything else, probably automatically.

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          42 years ago

          Theres one channel I wont name (because i cant remember what it is actually) but its some chick with tourettes who goes into shops and has her boyfriend filming while she just knocks shit over and makes a mess, then carries on when confronted and makes out like the workers there are discriminating against her. I dont doubt she has a problem, but if anyone came into my shop making a mess while someones filming them WTF would anyone do? anyway, the comments were nothing but praise about how ‘brave’ she is and how hard it must be to live like that. I am absolutely sure any comment that points out how rediculous it is and does nothing to forward her cause are removed quickly

      • @jcit878@lemmy.world
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        42 years ago

        its not just an american problem either, same stuff you will see on similarly leaning news articles and videos here in australia. all rambling about the same inconsequential shit that the cookers and loonies overseas ramble about as well.

        Its pretty funny that for the type of people that like to brag about ‘do your own research’, they sure are a bunch of stupid sheep that believe any idiotic thing they read online

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    22 years ago

    Guess that explains the existence of tankies

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    Downvote everything from that fuckin rag. Don’t post NYPost here. If there’s a story, find a news source that doesn’t itself have an outrageous history of propagandizing.

  • @Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    How to detect if it’s propaganda : I push propaganda you will not push propaganda we push propaganda they will not push propaganda.

    I = my country

    you = other country

    We = my friends and me

    They = their friends and them.

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        I’ll simplify :

        USA sharing propaganda via it’s social media companies to Europe and others = good thing.

        China sharing propaganda via it’s social to Europe and others = bad thing.

        In other terms : how dare they do the thing we’ve been doing ?

        • @ThoughtGoblin@lemm.ee
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          32 years ago

          Who in the world said western state propaganda was a good thing? Military recruitment and political ads are pretty universally hated.

          I might also add that western tech giants and media aren’t directly owned by the state, nor is the state a dictatorship, so it’s a little different? You think Elon’s Twitter is on the same side as Bidens Executive is on the same side as the conservative Congress?

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            America not being a dictatorship doesn’t a matter to anyone else besides it’s citizens. All the fucking world want is for America to not invade, destabilize, destroy the economy of other countries, which surprise surprise it’s been fucking doing none stop since the end of WW2 !!

            Do you really think the gouvernement doesn’t inject propaganda on social media ? Are you this naive ? It’s how you call “corruption” and “buying politicians” as “lobbying”. They don’t control it like a dictatorship would but they do control media.

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              America not being a dictatorship doesn’t a matter to anyone else besides it’s citizens.

              Most American allies depend on the US for defense, the US is the largest economy in the world, and the US is the largest ideological counterpart to countries like Russia - who want to use force to annihilate both dissent and opposition.

              It absolutely matters to most well-informed citizens of any country the world over how we conduct ourselves because it does directly impact them. That’s part of the reason we should be better than we are.

              The… world want [sic]… for America to not…

              I mean, you’re preaching to the choir. Most folk here didn’t want to send their kids to die in 'Nam or Afghanistan. Vets didn’t sign up to risk their lives for opium fields. American citizens were duped too.

              We’re on the same side here.

              Do you really think the gouvernement doesn’t inject propaganda on social media ?

              I didn’t say that, but they take out ad campaigns and use PR firms like a normal company. Twitter does not work for the US government and the US government does not rig the algorithm it uses for feeds. The Washington Post is not controlled by the US government. Amazon is not controlled by the US government.

              The distinction between that and what China or Russia does is important. They own the media. They own the companies. They own every method of communication and every interaction between their people. And they leverage that direct power to control narratives to say things like “Taiwan belongs to China” and “Ukraine belongs to Russia” and “Tianemen Square never happened”.

              Meanwhile, you can see all the atrocities the US government did on Wikipedia. Sometimes even on the websites of the state itself. Reparations are discussed, sometimes won. Protesters fight with, yes, the risk of state violence, but not of tanks turning them into pudding that’s washed down the gutters. And with that knowledge, we can shape our own future democratically. Putin and Xi cannot be voted out.

              All this is a long-winded way to say:

              • The US government engages in propaganda.
              • The US government’s propaganda, compared to authoritarian states, is heavily restricted and far more reliant on consensual participation. It’s also widely criticized and (almost) universally hated.
              • The propaganda used by authoritarian states like China is actively leveraged to commit outright genocide and deny atrocities. It cannot be publicly criticized or opposed.
              • Therefore, the scale and impact of propaganda is different and that difference must be considered.
        • @soviettaters@lemmy.world
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          12 years ago

          So all those ads that the government poured millions of dollars into which told people to get vaccinated were bad? Or are you saying that Chinese propaganda is good?

          • @Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Do you think am like some brain dead American right winger or something ?

            I meant military propaganda and most importantly the subtle and sometimes on the nose “this country bad and this one is good no matter what they do” type of media. Next time , take closer look at the wording of used in articles and especially the title. It’s how you can shift the narrative into anything you want.

            Propagandae is meant to control your political views and it’s not a matter of whom it benefit it’s the hypocrisy of " only us can do propaganda". Of course, your views are skewed toward your country so you’ll say “they better have our propaganda than theirs”.

          • @BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf
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            Do you realize how much effort the military puts into propaganda programs? They have an office in Hollywood specifically for controlling the portrayal of the military in films. They’re currently paying streamers to simp for them as a recruiting drive, look on kid YouTube and you see them, “I spent 100 hours training with the Army and it was so fun, war is awesome guys!”… Dragnet was literally designed to reform the image of the LAPD, and I’m certain all the procedural crime dramas that exist didnt only get green lit because middle age women like them. It’s everywhere and in everything. We’re constantly surrounded with and bombarded by state propaganda.

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    102 years ago

    From the original story in Forbes: „Both Meta and Google label content posted by state media outlets, and in January, TikTok announced that it would join them in doing so. (Twitter formerly labeled posts by state media outlets, but discontinued the labels under Elon Musk.)“

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    If there’s to be regulation on this, it has to be universal and has to apply to all states including the US, and all social media platforms equally.

    Otherwise leave it to people to decide what they want to watch. Louis Rossman’s view on the matter (guy on YT who complains about Apple and other bad behaviour by big companies) changed recently. Video: I was WRONG about banning tiktok - here’s why I changed my mind

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    Yeah well Orwell’s 1984 was way off then. The government does not even have to force people to install devices in their homes that blare government propaganda 24/7. They are doing it willingly, enthusiastiacally even, and they don’t even have to be citizens of that government lol

    Who would have thought?

  • drewofdoom
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    142 years ago

    Not saying it’s a lie, but sourcing from NYPost is automatically a huge red flag.

    I’ll put more stock in this when it’s reported by reputable outlets.

    • 𝙣𝙪𝙠𝙚
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      It’s literally linked in the first paragraph.

      TikTok has flooded millions of Europeans with ads from Chinese state propaganda outlets on topics like COVID-19 and tourism in the troubled Xinjiang region, according to an analysis of a recent ad library conducted by Forbes.