It’s precisely what everyone said would happen. Spez and the Reddit team seem not to realise how important mods and users were to their business! The number of people who will do the thankless task of dealing with the internet’s undercurrent of horrendous behaviour are few.
It’s not recognizing as such, but refusing to admit someone not directly under the magnificent leadership of the CEO can do anything important or have good ideas on how to run things. Toxic Techbro culture.
To techbros, people doing voluntary work for them is something to be exploited, not rewarded. They see the mods as saps as they would never do anything for free.
It’s precisely what everyone said would happen.
I don’t disagree with your general point, but I remember that there were many people (on reddit, but also on lemmy) who said there would be lots of power-hungry redditors just waiting to take over and that the admins would thus have no trouble at all finding replacements.
Let’s see how many are willing to go through all that regurgitating shit and survive a month in their new profession.
It’s never a good idea to set yourself up to be disappointed in humans because you’re gonna be disappointed lol
Finding replacement is one thing. Finding good replacement an entirely different one.
Yup. The real test will be how these communities function in 6 months, since the effect probably won’t show until then.
Those were the same shit-stirrers, and they don’t care if they’re right or not as long as you can be wrong about something. They’re just waiting for that something and they’ll start hooting about how smart they are again.
I wonder if their plan was to use chatgpt or some AI to pick up the slack with moderation but set things into motion before realizing that AI isn’t quite there yet and would need human eyes to verify actions otherwise the AI would have banned everyone or not enough people.
I don’t know which scenario is more amusing, the one where they had a plan that failed or the one where they just thought everything would work out fine and what we saw was the plan.
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He was never good at it. He used to have handlers, when Musk fired all his own Captain Copycat did the same thing. He’s not a smart man… either one.
Covering up being an asshole has gone out of style.
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It’s interesting to observe this speeding train wreck from a distance.
Haha.
I moderated a few reddits for a couple of months and promptly left that absolute joke of a system to people vastly more masochistic than I. I cannot fathom doing the equivalent of full time work for free on a site that actively berates any moderator who attempts to stand up for themselves or their tools used to moderate.
That’s actually a very good article!
I generally like Ars.
I’d like to mod r/FuckSpez. Where do I sign up?
He made sure to ban that group.
He can’t ban it on Lemmy.
That would be /c/FuckSpez, not /r/FuckSpez.
Hah! I can’t wait for the next devaluation to drop.
The incompetence of Reddit staff in recent years has especially impressed me.
The incompetence of Reddit staff in recent years has especially impressed me
Tell me about it, I just got a 7 day ban of promoting hate on a samsung sub and my comment had nothing to do with it lol. Some guy decided to randomly abuse and harass me, I reported him and he obviously reported me. I notice he got banned right away but days later so did I for nothing? Lol shows how incompetence and in shambles that the new mods are in.
Ooooh yes. Something similar happened to me out of the blue back in January. I commented, verbatim:
Random fact that I recently learned and thought was kind of cool. One of the very first responses of your body when you get a cut or infection is to synthesize hydrogen peroxide in the area that signals your white blood cells to rally to that area.
I then linked to Science Daily and Harvard articles about it.
Temporary ban for “Harassment,” citing this comment.
Later on I incurred another infraction and my account was permabanned, citing my previous strike as justification for the permanent ban. Smfh. 250 characters to appeal…
Meanwhile these idiots excused cesspools like The_Donald for years. Meanwhile I report a person being objectively racist (Calling them “out of control” and “absolutely feral savages”) and… They reviewed it not once but twice and found nothing wrong. LOL.
I wrote this all up in a medium article in more detail but I’m half-tempted to send all my screenshots to Fidelity and some news outlets for shits.
Wow. I’ve had other ridiculous bans in the past too.
Best one was banned for sexual harassment and being ‘toxic’.
It was back when u/theawkwardturtle was blowing up a storm and some feminist banned me for the word ‘ok’ because she said anyone who would oppose me and awkwardturtle by commenting are going to get a permanent ban and a harassment violation from reddit.
Next mine I was banned from that sub and I got a temp ban from reddit for the word ‘ok’ lmao.
Tried to appeal for the hell of it months later and the mod denied me instantly and said what i done was atrocious and I deserve my ban, called me a horrible human being and said I was a sexualising predator etc.
I’ve always hated reddit mods but man I’m glad I’m not that active on that sespool of hate anymore.
Somehow I missed all that controversy. Looking it up now, wow what a shit-show. Just to clarify for anyone else reading this, it was the user AwkwardTheTurtle not theawkwardturtle.
I was permanently banned from r/militaryporn for pointing out that MRAP was the name of a family of vehicles and not of a single particular one. Some former marine took strange emotional offense at this and spewed a lot of personal insults at me as I linked details a few times to the history of the program. The person commenting at me got extremely vile and an uncalled for, while also being confidently wrong. I just linked facts and didn’t insult in response.
Then I was perma banned. Tis a silly place.
If you’re using a Samsung at this point it’s safe to say you hate yourself lol
? Sounds like a little bit jealousy and resentment but ok.
Agreed, that or they’re sub 80 IQ
Hello, Thank for sharing! Seems like it already got posted to !reddit@lemmy.world, maybe we can keep the Reddit discussions over there? There isn’t that much technology discussed on Reddit nowadays, it’s mostly a sinking ship by now.
Actually most of the discussion happens in !reddit@lemmy.ml
Let the instance wars begin!
It appears I’m not allowed to interact on that instance, did lemmy.world defederate from lemmy.ml?
Probably the issue with the .ml again
And who could have guessed? U r right, I’m absolutely baffled this is a serious issue…
Hm, interesting, I have no idea unfortunately
Lemmy.ml is dying because the ml domain got picked back up by mali.
Reddit apparently still hasn’t figured out the maxim “Don’t piss off the free help.” TANSTAFL.
Reddit Mods were never good. They were some of the worst people on Reddit. The admins are the only people worse than the mods.
There are also bad power tripping mods on Lemmy.
What communities should I be avoiding?
Lemmy.world has them.
Can you please cite a specific example from a specific community? I’m not trying to say that you’re lying I’m just interested in learning more about this.
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I was a good mod my users said :)
you’re cool :)
What I said applies to big subreddit mods. I think most niche or small subreddit mods were great.
Maybe they were Scotsmen.
For a lot of the big subs, sure. But every mod I encountered in the hobby/food/gardening subs were good and ran good spaces.
I can’t figure out where all the lemmy people posting about reddits “power tripping power mods” were posting. I think I ran across one mod in the wild (niche sub) that I thought was crazy and they got run off the platform eventually. What were people posting that they were getting banned all over the place? Maybe the mods weren’t the problem if multiple were banning you?
You never ran into Merari01?
They’re a pretty ubiquitous cunt.
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Seriously, 90% of Reddit mods are on a power trip, they permanently ban you and mute you instantly at the slightest transgression or if they just don’t like you. Also, everyone single one of them claims to be one of the good ones, lol.
Ah, but when a subreddit had mostly mods from that 10%, <chef’s kiss>
AskHistorians, AskScience, WhatIsThisThing, etc.
Maybe this is another example of Sturgeon’s law.
Don’t know, I stopped visiting WhatIsThisThing after an encounter with a really trippy mod that handed out bans like candy. But maybe they got kicked and striped of their role
90% of mods did non obvious work like stopping spammers from overrunning subs.
If you think they all ban for fun then the problem is you.
Sweeping generalizations are never good or correct.
All sweeping generalizations are bad!
Most mods tend to follow the quantity of reports they receive from the community. If you post something that triggers lots of random users… then you are screwed.
And yes, that also happens on Lemmy… as much as folks around here consider it as a “holy ground filled with saints”. :^)
t. A mod threatened to ban me because I was “spamming” – while I was posting once per day.
That’s the case for every sub with a political undertone.
Most subs for your favourite hobby is usually nice. Unless your hobby is US politics, believing walking dogs 5 hours a week is a job, or inventing a patriarchal society to tear down.
Who needs to invent a patriarchal system? Most of us live in one.
If the system wasn’t a patriarch, why do we call it “The Man”?
inventing a patriarchal society to tear down.
🤣
That’s quite rich, after the way they treated their mods.
Really a sign of them not giving a shit about anyone.
No good person would put up with being a mod for reddit after this shit show with spez. The only incentive to put up with that is the financial gains of allowing astroturfing as a mod (for example) or having a really weird power trip. Very curious to see how reddit will evolve with that kind of leadership
I’m still technically a mod for a small subreddit. I polled the users, they weren’t interested in moving over to Lemmy.
(Edit because prematurely posted)
I’m still hoping they’ll move over, but tbh it’s a good bunch of posters on a niche subject and the mod team has never had to be too active. The topic had a been literally unmodded for years before the current mod team fell into it, so I’m confident we’re not needed.
We’re literally just a placeholder to keep someone power mad from becoming mod. (Long story long: founding mod abandoned sub, came back after years, was mad the subreddit didn’t agree with his crap opinions, made the sub private, I and a few other posters made a new subreddit.)
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The problem is that there just isn’t an alternative for some communities (yet). For some things there’s ONE space to talk about it and/or a nice little helpful community.
IMO it’s up to each person how they want to move forwards, and staying on in a limited capacity is a fair compromise. Another advantage being the community can later be redirected when users are ready.
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They care about revenue. They made it clear during protest. “Well our revenue isn’t really impacted so whatever on we go!!”
But it was and they’re showing their true faces.
That was the best?!?
Are you asking?!?
well at least they got rid of some of the hungry powermods, i couldnt care less about reddit moderators though
I just don’t care about Reddit anymore. Or Twitter, for that matter.
I just like to watch them burn at this point
