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That’s wild. Like man I’m impressed with Sync and think it’s great but you’d have to be using it for 7 years for this to be worth it…Lemmy is so new you’d be mad to be making a gamble like this.
On the contrary, if you’re an avid sync users in the past (I did for 8 years), if you don’t make the gamble now, then it’ll be even more likely for the app to fail and go away due to the lack of funding.
At this price it probably will anyway because so few people will pay it.
With that high price and no regional pricing for a barebone app, if it failed, it’s on him. Only sucker pay for promises.
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I don’t think it can display upvote and downvote counts separately. For me I consider that useful information. Also, my comments written while using it don’t show in my profile, so it seems a little glitchy still. And it can’t create posts yet. I’ll stick with the kbin PWA for now.
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sync ultra is ongoing costs it’s mainly features that require dedicated servers and subscriptions from LJ like translation requiring paying google cloud setting sync requiring servers to store it there’s a plain ad free only that’s lifetime for $20
No API costs but Lemmy is still in constant and early development and would not doubt require many changes in the years to come.
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Well I’ve used Sync Pro for reddit for over 11 years with constant updates and I only paid 1.99 for that so I have pretty good faith in the developer this go around…
So just consider buying the ad free version for 20 bucks then?
I pass
I feel like the dev is trying to cash out, his apps good but reddit screwed him so I do kinda understand but he’s priced me out.
at that price you could afford the reddit api… not that i’d want to
I bought the reddit lifetime this year. Lemmy is no where near as interesting or engaging as reddit so far. I guess I’ll just stick with the ad free version.
Yea no.
Honestly I’d pay 60usd (price of a new video game). I’d probably end up getting the ad free version for 22usd though I’m still evaluating the app and seeing whether my favorite app Boost makes progress.
I think a good reader like sync, boost etc. Is still a good value if you spend a lot of time using it.
Nope
I think the ultra price for reddit was like 30 dollars for lifetime. 100+ bucks just seems like way to much.
Its $179 Australian. Absolutely not worth it to me.
For an app that you can’t even make a post from yet. I don’t care who you are, $180 for an app still missing basic functionality is always going to be a hard sell.
Eh.
People have been spoiled by the app store. Like I agree its a lot of money, but it also takes a lot of money to live, and if someone is a solo developer for a living then they depend on software sales. Lifetime purchases are tough. Once you get that money, the potential for more money from that customer is gone. Unless you follow a traditional software licensing model where you buy a version and upgrading past a major release requires another purvhase.
Im pretty sure he LJ has taken into account the heavily decreased sales potential of the lemmy market. Hes going to make substantially less sales, so he needs those sales to be worth it, especially if its a lifetime purchase. Its hard to strike a balance between worth it for the customer and worth it for the dev. Ideally the lifetime cost pushes would be purchasers towards an ongoing subscription while still providing value for both parties.
I agree $179aud us too much, and I wont be paying that myself, but I feel for LJ at the same time. Its not going to be easy making the money he may need to continue developing at the same rate.
Spoiled by the app store?
This is the same price as a windows 11 licence.
What is so app store about that?
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Because people want to pay $1 or $2 for a full version of an app, and that may not be enough to justify development.
A windows license is still legacy software model. You dont buy a lifetime windows key, you buy a version key and have to pay again after a major update, although this looks like its currently evolving to a more free to play model. Microsoft has an exponentially wider audience who are mostly captive though, as opposed to LJ who has just had his audience dramatically reduced.
At the end of the day development takes time. Time is money. If LJ cant make a sustainable wage from sync they will have to work elsewhere and sync and its users are the ones who suffer.
I think Sync might end up hosting a Lemmy instance for ultra users. It could help user experience quite a bit
What would happen if you stop your subscription then? Lose your account?
There is no subscription though? It’s even written in the picture
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That wouls be a fine value add, especially if it integrated features into the server code that were open sourced and down streamed. That would add some real weight to that purchase price.
I know I’m cheap and I know this app is great and is a lot of work but fuck, this is expensive. Subscriptions are the worst model capitalism can offer. And the one time payment price is ridiculous, I can’t afford that.
the free one works well. and I got an adblocker I think
that is one time payment for sync ultra.
there is also a one time payment to just remove ads, at 20$.
I feel as though this information is left intentionally absent in this post.
App development ain’t cheap and lifetime subscriptions are an incredible deal if you like the features and intend to keep using the app for the next decade plus. But you’ve got to look at it that way or else it’s not worth it.
if you like the features and intend to keep using the app for the next decade plus and it remains available for that long
FTFY
Great point. I am not familiar with sync or the dev so I couldn’t speak to their reliability, although the outpouring of support suggests they’ll be active.
And most of the ultra features are things that require hosting or external paid apis.
Realistically it’s the only way he can sustain the development costs with such a small userbase. I’ve subscribed monthly to show my support. It’s not really that much money considering how much I use sync.
These models are designed in such a way that those who can afford to support do, and those who can’t afford to still have access through the free version.
They certainly don’t expect everyone to purchase ultra, let alone lifetime.
I recently cancelled my Netflix and Spotify accounts because of horrible support and constant rate hikes. It’s the perfect time to splurge and support a dev that deserves the money.
I did yearly and I’ll probably get lifetime once we’re out of beta. 18 bucks a year is the price for 1 month of Netflix, which ain’t that bad at all.
Just run your phone through a free private DNS server and never see an ad again. I use dns.adguard.com.
None of my free apps show any ads on my phone.
I mean sure, but that doesn’t support the hard work the developer or into this… So…
Just donate whatever amount you want directly to them then.
Those donation buttons, rarely ever get used. Because everyone would rather just think that everyone else donated so it’s fine if they don’t. And sure, some do donate (I’ve donated before) but that’s the actions of the very few.
I just can’t get myself to trust an ex Russian, offshore company with my dns traffic
Nextdns.io works well, and lets you customize tons of features. Alternatively, you can run a pihole on pretty much any spare computer to work as an home adblocker. You can also route up to an adblocking dns with it to double up.
You want to get extra wild, setup a wireguard vpn server at home after that, and have your phone auto connect to it when you leave your home wifi.
No more ads ever.
I do that too on my Samsung phone. Do you know a way to do it on iPhone?
You either need to set the DNS in your phone settings somewhere or route all traffic through a VPN (should be a setting somewhere too). You can then use a VPN where you can set the DNS. I use tailscale for this
Check out their instructions. You’ve got a couple options:
I do this. But I would still like to pay the dev. Just not those prices,
There’s also the ad removal option for 20$ one time. If you don’t need the other features of ultra.
