• @Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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    1792 months ago

    When asked about his estranged transgender daughter in October 2022, Musk told the Financial Times “Can’t win them all,”

    The guy is just an absolute monster. I think this much of a wealth gap for one person would bring out the worst in anyone. His worst is just really really bad. Never click on X links people please. It’s a small thing, but it’s the right thing.

  • @unmagical@lemmy.ml
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    4372 months ago

    Because schools cannot forcibly out students to their parents SpaceX is now incapable of working there? Seems like there’s something else going on.

    • @Eldritch@lemmy.world
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      2612 months ago

      He has a BS cult of personality like trump. And has learned he can distract from his real scandals by causing an overload of stupid shenanigans. That will capture the media focus. And keep it from where it should be.

      • @then_three_more@lemmy.world
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        1782 months ago

        In the UK we call it a dead cat strategy.

        There is one thing that is absolutely certain about throwing a dead cat on the dining room table – and I don’t mean that people will be outraged, alarmed, disgusted. That is true, but irrelevant. The key point, says my Australian friend, is that everyone will shout, ‘Jeez, mate, there’s a dead cat on the table!’ In other words, they will be talking about the dead cat – the thing you want them to talk about – and they will not be talking about the issue that has been causing you so much grief.[1]

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_cat_strategy

      • @NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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        192 months ago

        I don’t know how much it’s he despises her, vs how much he despises what he thinks woke people and the woke education system did to her.

    • @CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world
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      Bullshit.

      He just threw down big support for trump, he knows trump cant win CA so this could be a ploy to help him in TX.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/elon-musk-goes-all-in-on-donald-trump/ar-BB1q5TOi

      Additionally, musks good friend Ken Griffin of Citadel Securities alongside Blackrock are opening a rival to NYSE in (you guessed it) Texas. Whether or not its related, idk.

      https://www.forbes.com/sites/caileygleeson/2024/06/05/a-billionaire-backed-texas-stock-exchange-is-in-the-works-heres-what-to-know/

      • @radicalautonomy@lemmy.world
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        Believe me when I say that it is not to help Trump win Texas. I’ve lived here for over 40 years, and for the last 25, I have kept hearing how this is a “purple state” and “it’s gonna be a swing state soon”.

        It’s not.

        It’s not, it never has been, it never will be, and it’s never been worse here. Which is why I’m leaving this hellhole once and for all next week with my cat, and I ain’t never looking back.

        • LearnedDonkey
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          I ain’t never looking back.

          Do we have a RemindMe bot on lemmy? Or maybe the double negative was a Freudian slip 😉

          You sound like you fell for some big stereotype-filled detached-from-reality circle jerks, of which, this comment section is one. It actually reminded me for some reason of the Huffington Post’s 2016 election predictions. Well, they at least got Texas right. lol.

          • @radicalautonomy@lemmy.world
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            132 months ago

            Someone, I’m presuming a teacher, petitioned Texas Department of Family Protective Services which, under the directions of the governor, investigated my ex-wife for daring to have a trans kid in a conservative town.

            You can’t respond if you’d like, but I really don’t give a baker’s fuck what you have to say, mate, because you are either willfully ignorant of this fascist bullshit at best or a supporter of it at worst. Either way, maggot-filled bicep gash is more appealing to me that your opinion.

    • @Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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      312 months ago

      Yeah, his daughter is trans and publicly disowned him. The dude has basically quadrupled down on his transphobia ever since just to prove how totally not butthurt he is over this.

    • @thefartographer@lemm.ee
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      202 months ago

      Nope, I think Elon is really onto something. Woke schools means we can’t go to space anymore!

      LOOK WHAT WE MADE HIM DO!!!

  • @Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world
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    1292 months ago

    The kind of decision making others feel worthy of an over 50 billion pay package.

    Fuck Elon, and fuck the board too. Never buying one with him involved.

  • @Yewb@lemmy.world
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    132 months ago

    Doesnt he have a fiduciary responsibility to the share holders? How is this unnecessary move going to help increase their value?

    Please lets think of the shareholders!

    • @Lemonparty@lemm.ee
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      92 months ago

      Unless I’m mistaken they’ve always been based in Texas. Like look at their corporate license, they’re incorporated in Texas. SpaceX isn’t moving shit, he’s just talking out his ass per usual.

    • @Celestus@lemm.ee
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      82 months ago

      SpaceX is not publicly traded, so there are no (public) shareholders to be beholden to

      • @Yewb@lemmy.world
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        62 months ago

        There are stake holders that are not elon he only has like 54% still a fiduciary responsibility

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      All media gave him free uncritical publicity for decades. They inflated his ego, branded him as a genius and built him a legion of fanatics. Now the media see the monster they created, but it is too late to undo :/

      PS: I just noticed this is the tech community…why is this posted here?

      • androogee (they/she)
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        162 months ago

        Space X is a technology company, why wouldn’t it be posted here?

        The media doesn’t give a shit. They’re doing trump AGAIN, same exact way they did before.

        Profit has killed ethics in so much of journalism.

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          this is a mere business update about a tech company…nothing about tech that any other company couldn’t do.This exact same thing could have happened 100 years ago with some airline magnate who decided to move headquarters for some legal/accounting/marketing reason :D

          Tech is about new products, principles, ideas, innovation, patents, methods, engineering, achievements, drawbacks, etc.

          PS: !business@lemmy.world

    • @filister@lemmy.world
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      572 months ago

      I actually used to admire this guy, based on the image he had created for himself (self-educated in rocket science, which I highly doubt) but the Thai cave incident and calling one of the divers pedo, opened my eyes.

      • @I_poop_from_there@lemmy.world
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        242 months ago

        Same here, I used to have this image in my head of a eccentric entrepreneur pushing technology to the max with ‘fuck you money’.

        Sure he said some crazy shit sometimes, but it kind of felt like he didn’t have much of a filter.

        Around the time of the Thai cave thing this started to change, but I still gave him the benefit of the doubt until that point.

        After that, things just went down hill…

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        I think kinda everyone did. I never loved the guy, I got weird vibes and thought he was majorly overrated, but I thought he was fine, and I respected the work he’d attached his name to.

        Hell, I still respect the hell out of starlink, as someone who had dial-up or old style sattelite with 15GB/mo limits until I moved out of my parents house 6 years ago. That shit’s cool as hell, I would’ve killed for it as a kid, and my dad did shell out for it when it became available.

        I don’t really attribute anything cool that’s come out of Elon’s companies to him any more though, in my mind all the credit goes to the talented leaders and engineers that are “under” him. There is something to be said about bankrolling these things, I suppose, but I don’t think it’s as noble a mission as we all once thought. He just wants to be liked by people and make money.

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          I think kinda everyone did.

          No he didn’t. Capitalists don’t fool leftists - but nobody ever listens to them, right?

      • Dizzy Devil Ducky
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        22 months ago

        Pretty sure most people had some admiration for him. I, for one, admired the whole thing of him selling flamethrowers. Things change when you learn how much of a scumbag someone is.

      • @Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz
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        32 months ago

        He lied about his education. If you read a Wikipedia article on the Apollo engine you now know as much about rocket surgery as Elon.

        It’s the same type of “I’m smart” that Trump has.

    • @EnderMB@lemmy.world
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      242 months ago

      Let’s not pretend it was just Reddit. The man literally got a shout-out in Star Trek. He had a lot of people fooled.

        • @Alexstarfire@lemmy.world
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          72 months ago

          Give me a break. There’s a lot of people that people fawn over that turn out to be huge pieces of shit. Just look at Bill Cosby. Not really sure why you’re singling out capitalism.

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            Not really sure why you’re singling out capitalism.

            And who did Bill Cosby make money for, again? Who protected Bill Cosby and allowed him all that power?

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              But your argument, from what I read, is that they fawned over him because he made money. You’re specifically calling out the business/monetary side:

              a capitalist world fawning over capitalists

              No, they fawned over him because they liked his character and persona in public.

            • @Halosheep@lemm.ee
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              32 months ago

              Is the capitalism in the room with you right now?

              Damn dude, capitalism isn’t the boogeyman you can’t just blame everything bad on it lol

      • @___@lemm.ee
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        I don’t think he fooled anyone. The guy was literally helping the environment and advancing the space age. Then he started using drugs and went off the rails. He’s like Kanye. His music was good, the creator just went nuts.

        • @EnderMB@lemmy.world
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          22 months ago

          My own personal opinion of him is that he’s a shrewd businessman in a world that prefers businessmen over creators. The second the public eye shifted to him he clearly had some mental episode that has only been heightened by drug use and being egged-on by the alt-right and social commentators like Rogan. Ironically, he’s become a creator, but his content is the actions of a broken billionaire lashing out.

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          32 months ago

          The guy was literally helping the environment

          No he wasn’t. Capitalists don’t cure the disasters they create - they just find different ways of profiting off it.

          the creator just went nuts.

          No, he didn’t - he just showed his true nature. That is all.

          • @___@lemm.ee
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            22 months ago

            You see all of the electric cars on the road now? Tesla saw an opportunity to make money, and it paved a path to lower carbon emissions (eventually). Even the blind chicken catches a worm. Capitalism isn’t all bad, it’s the greed it breeds that’s bad. The world isn’t black and white.

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              You see all of the electric cars on the road now?

              You mean those things that aren’t public transport? Those things?

              Tesla saw an opportunity to make money, and it paved a path to lower carbon emissions (eventually) still profiteering from privatized transport while pretending it was fixing anything.

              FTFY.

              Capitalism isn’t all bad, it’s the greed it breeds that’s bad.

              Capitalism is literally just a set of excuses and pretexts to justify gross economic parasitism - old-style concepts such as “greed” doesn’t even hold a candle to that.

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      There was that moment it time when he was the underdog doing cool stuff. It seemed like he couldn’t screw up, because his companies were hitting the ball out of the park one after the other.

      Then the pedo guy debacle taught us who he really is.

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          To be fair, not that he deserves it, I still don’t know if we have enough information to say for certain that he agreed with the apartheid stuff. We know he benefited from it and hasn’t said anything against it. We can also safely assume he’d agree with it now, but I can’t say at the time that anyone should have assumed any more than him just benefiting from racism, which can be said of almost anyone who isn’t a person of color in the west.

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            32 months ago

            We can also safely assume

            There’s a saying in Russian “ради красного словца не пожалеет и отца” (“for a nice-looking word won’t spare even father”). By that very law “safely assume” is usually used where no, it’s not safe to assume something.

    • @Red_October@lemmy.world
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      242 months ago

      It’s almost funny really. Way back when, his goals were commendable. The proliferation of electric cars was an Eco-friendly dream. Tesla battery projects were poised to expand renewable energy source utilization. Basically everything SpaceX was doing with reusable rockets was just really cool to the nerd demographic. All he had to do was shut the fuck up, let the work speak for itself, and people would still like him. Not without black marks on his record, of course, but on balance, people would probably like him.

      But no. Elmo couldn’t shut the fuck up, a problem he continues to have at every turn, and people learned who he really is. His electric vehicle baby stopped being the scrappy upstart with teething problems, and started being a manufacturing disaster that had loose production tolerances matched only by the loose tolerances on what qualified as acceptable working conditions. SpaceX decided that cluttering orbit with thousands of disposable satellites was cool, and the environment and astronomy could fuck off. The only stories about Tesla Batteries that followed were about how quickly they lost their capacity and how expensive they were to replace. And Elmo himself bought a globally known communications company, immediately obliterated it’s value, and turned it into a cesspit of literal Nazis. And this is the abridged list.

      All Elon Musk had to do was shut the fuck up and people would have liked him. Just goes to show that “Just be yourself” is really shitty advice for some people.

      • @Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz
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        There were a lot of engineers making noise about Elon being a complete fucking idiot a long time ago. People were dismissing it as jealousy, but it was one of those quiet industry secrets.

        Lo and behold, Elon was never accepted into a doctorate program and there is a bunch of shady shit about him even having a B.S. in physics, looks more like he failed out of the program and got the degree after a large donation from his father.

        Elon started believing his own bullshit and exploded himself for being a fucking loser rich kid who has done nothing but funded some projects smart people told him to fund.

        • @Red_October@lemmy.world
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          Also don’t forget, he buys companies that are already successful and then rewrites their history to say he founded them, and then he tells engineers to do a thing and takes the credit when those engineers figure out how to do it.

          I will, however, readily believe that most of the Cybertruck was actually his idea, probably initially drawn in crayon.

    • @Gestrid@lemmy.ca
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      There was a time when I… well, I didn’t really follow him all that much, but I didn’t have any reason to dislike him. That changed when he tried to back out of buying Twitter.

      At the time I was unhappy with how Twitter was handling its problems. I was hoping things would improve with new ownership. When he backed out, I started to see what kind of person he really was: someone who thought he could do basically whatever he wanted.

      By the time he actually did but Twitter, I was glad the government actually stuck it to him and made him go through with the purchase. And I’m glad Twitter is failing because of his own blunders. I’m hoping it eventually dies (I’m already trying to move on to other platforms like Bluesky or Mastodon. Just waiting for people I follow to move to them.) and that he’s still left with money he hasn’t made back after that purchase.

  • @Red_October@lemmy.world
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    662 months ago

    How fun would it be if the next Texas power grid failure manages to cause serious damage to Apartheid-Baby’s pet project?

  • Wytch
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    I know that this is vile and sick and cruel but goddamn, that headline is so fucking batshit stupid I laughed out loud.

    What a colossal dipshit.

    • BrightCandle
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      172 months ago

      He is just a continuous liar, its about taxes it always is.

    • @MrMcGasion@lemmy.world
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      522 months ago

      No way that’s the real reason, the real reason is taxes. So many California millionaires move to Texas for the low tax, only to realize once they’re there that it’s a shitty state with a barely-functioning power grid. Unfortunately it never seems to click for most of them that the low taxes is a big part of why they don’t have a competent state government.

      • Wytch
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        172 months ago

        If it isn’t, then it’s worse, because that means he’s only saying it out of cruelty and petty malice. And it means I now loathe him somehow more than I already did.

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        I’m sure they’re aware, they just don’t care. Being wealthy they can buy more than their fair share of the power grid, or any other utility or government service, for less than they would pay in taxes in a functioning state.

  • @masquenox@lemmy.world
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    952 months ago

    Oh look… Apartheid-boy is moving his company to a more overtly white supremacist location and blaming his daughter for it.

    I am so surprised.

    • @Treczoks@lemmy.world
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      302 months ago

      He wanted to go Texas for the taxes for quite some time now. All he needed was a lame excuse to blame his own cheap decision on someone else.

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        142 months ago

        So maybe I’m stupid but… Why? Why does he feel he needs an excuse beyond “taxes are cheaper in Texas”? Like, it’s understandable that a business owner wants to reduce costs, and reducing your taxes is one good way to do it. The blowback from saying something relatively mild like “I want to pay less taxes” is going to be way less than the blowback of saying “I want to leave California because trans people have too many rights here” right?

        I’m not trying to defend Musk or anything here, I’m just so confused why he’s going this route

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        122 months ago

        He can farm hay on the SpaceX property and pay farm taxes in Texas. There are several mega factories down there that do this same thing.