• @OscarRobin@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    312 years ago

    I don’t like Apple but they ship their devices with everything a basic user needs and if a high quality, completely for free. When you get a MacBook you don’t need to worry about finding and downloading an external app for almost anything - from viewing any kind of file, to basic photo and video editing, to document processing, etc. And they don’t track every minute thing you do and act like malware to try to make you use their products.

  • @ameliawilliams@leminal.space
    link
    fedilink
    English
    22 years ago

    Not a huge problem for me: (1) Never really used wordpad. (2) Used WordPerfect from 1999-2003 (3) Used Open Office and Libre Office since 2003 (4) I use Linux now

  • Phoenixz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    72 years ago

    Install Linux, use whatever the hell you like

  • @Blackmist@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    372 years ago

    I get that people here hate MS, but defending Wordpad is a bonkers hill to die on.

    It’s complete wank.

  • AnonTwo
    link
    fedilink
    132 years ago

    As long as they stay the fuck away from notepad

    • JJROKCZ
      link
      fedilink
      English
      12 years ago

      Yea even with notepad++ on my machine I found myself using notepad for tons of shit while notepadd++ is better for logs and making scripts

    • @WaterWaiver@aussie.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      3
      edit-2
      2 years ago

      N.B. Notepad3 (originally Flo’s notepad2) is a great drop-in replacement for notepad.exe (and even has an install option to do exactly that, so everything opens with it even if other programs call it). I install it on every Win system I have to manage. Not as big as Notepad++, but has syntax highlighting, line numbers and supports LF file endings.

      EDIT: Disappointingly no screenshots on either site >:| It looks similar to vanilla notepad.exe

  • @pepsison52895@lemmy.one
    link
    fedilink
    English
    252 years ago

    I provide support for a Windows-only application that has to do automated document conversion. Some customers refuse to pay for an additional Office license and the only other option is WordPad. Going back to work on Tuesday is going to suck.

  • Vashti
    link
    fedilink
    English
    422 years ago

    Slightly annoyed about this, as I do use Wordpad (it’s lightweight and useful for quick notes that I want to mark up with bold and italic). I don’t always want to watch Word or Libreoffice load for twenty to thirty seconds.

    Shitty decision, happy to be Wordpad’s one fan.

  • HidingCat
    link
    fedilink
    382 years ago

    This place really hates MS. Can’t believe some of the comments here.

    • @eee@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      322 years ago

      Yeah it’s really strange. I’m not a fan of MS by any means, but I’ve found myself making so many pro-MS comments on Lemmy just because the userbase leans so heavily pro-Linux and anti-MS.

      • @ebits21@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        4
        edit-2
        2 years ago

        It shouldn’t be that strange. Linux nerds are a huge Lemmy demographic.

        Much more up on new technology, FOSS, and privacy issues etc. than the general population. Good fit for Lemmy.

      • @visak@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        32 years ago

        And then getting downvoted by people who just disagree with your opinion. I’m one of the Reddit refugees so I don’t know if we brought that with us or Lemmy was like that before but it’s sad to see.

        • @psycho_driver@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          82 years ago

          That’s why downvote buttons exist? If you want to express your opinion on the internet, go ahead, but you should be prepared for the possibility that it might not be a popular opinion.

          • @schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
            link
            fedilink
            English
            72 years ago

            Downvote buttons are meant to be used for comments that don’t contribute to the discussion or are plainly completely wrong, not for opinions you disagree with. But most people can’t stand being disagreed with on things they feel passionately about, so they will still downvote where they merely disagree.

          • @funchords@lemmy.sdf.org
            link
            fedilink
            English
            32 years ago

            That’s why downvote buttons exist?

            No (and not downvoted) … it’s about controlling visibility.

            https://join-lemmy.org/docs/users/03-votes-and-ranking.html

            My take: Upvote the stuff other people should see. Downvote the stuff that should have never been here at all. You don’t have to agree or disagree, you can even have no opinion. But if you find it worthwhile to others, upvote it. Detrimental, downvote it.

            • @visak@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              22 years ago

              Maybe there should be four buttons:

              • Upvote-good comment
              • Upvote-agree
              • Downvote-disagree
              • Downvote-unhelpful/rude

              Which could be used for more filtering options.

              Or maybe a separate agreement/disagree metric. I wouldn’t mind seeing the consensus on a topic separate from the measure of usefulness.

          • @visak@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            7
            edit-2
            2 years ago

            It’s just that it’s boring. I’d rather have an interesting debate. Downvoting everything you simply disagree with just leads to groupthink forums.

      • dantheclammanOP
        link
        fedilink
        English
        382 years ago

        Lemmy and other Fediverse sites tend to attract folks who prefer FOSS. Early Reddit was that way too!

        • @tabular@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          12 years ago

          What has changed which means they should be forgiven or trusted during these 20 years? What does a Linux subsystem for Windows prove? They want users to run Linux apps in Windows so their users will be less tempted to not use Windows… so they can add more anti features for profit.

          • @bemenaker@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            22 years ago

            I guess you are completely unaware of the fact that a huge chunk of the Azure infrastructure runs on linux now. MS also knows that in the enterprise space, companies use linux in their server infrastructure also, so their employees need to be able to work in linx as well. MS has versions of SQL and I believe also exchange that run on linux. WSL isn’t just about appease neckbeard wannabes.

              • @bemenaker@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                12 years ago

                I was working in the industry like I do now when that happened. I was disappointed the antitrust trial didn’t break up MS into three companies. Things have changed there. I guess we should dig into your past and hold everything you’ve did 20 years ago against you?

                Ballmer was the driving force behind that mentality and he’s been gone from MS for a very long time.

                • @tabular@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  1
                  edit-2
                  2 years ago

                  Would breaking up big tech software companies have the same effect as it does with regular companies? I can’t shake the idea it won’t really work. People don’t want the 2nd best free (gratis) mapping software.

                  I guess we should dig into your past and hold everything you’ve did 20 years ago against you?

                  If one has not tried to sincerely make amends or doesn’t appear to have changed then it’s resonable take past actions into consideration?? I still see Microsoft making anti-consumer moves and they ain’t making Windows free software (free as in freedom).

    • qyron
      link
      fedilink
      English
      72 years ago

      A broken clock can be right twice a day. Unless someone keeps playing with the dials.

      As a former user, and an hardcore fanboy, I loved MS and Windows. They made computers accessible for the general public. The OS and the office suite were great. The sheer amount of available software for it was phenomenal. They even decided to publish games, which meant quality!

      Until they decided to break things.

      XP was a great OS, Vista wasn’t. Then 7 was back to being good just for 8 to be not as good. Then Cortana and Edge and the push for cloud computing.

      What worked, worked well and was actually useful was changed, removed, phased out…

      GNU/Linux is not without its dramas and difficulties but we can expect a good degree of continuity between each version of a software (I’m looking a you, Gnome!). And if we’re that hell bent on having that specific specific piece of software or OS setup, well, we can.

      MS by contrast just chucks the good things out and doesn’t even let them floating around as something users may add to their system.

      Does someone remembers the PowerToys collection?

      • TWeaK
        link
        fedilink
        English
        3
        edit-2
        2 years ago

        Does someone remembers the PowerToys collection?

        That name rings a bell. My username is from “Tweak Tools 95”, which I think was a part of that or something.

        Edit: Also Windows has a long history of alternating good and bad versions.

        • 98 - good
        • ME - bad
        • XP - good
        • Vista - bad
        • 7 - good
        • 8 - bad
        • 10 - good
        • 11 - bad

        In theory, the next version of Windows should be fairly good, or at least an improvement on 11. However I worry that MS will buck the trend now - particularly as they’ve pivoted away from software sales to software as a service (with additional data collection because fuck paying users).

      • @Bytestream@programming.dev
        link
        fedilink
        English
        52 years ago

        Unpopular opinion: Vista was actually a good step forward, but the hardware of the time wasn’t up for the task which made it run like dogshit, and hence the public perception. It brought in better memory management, and UAC for better security among other things.

        What worked, worked well and was actually useful was changed, removed, phased out…

        MS by contrast just chucks the good things out and doesn’t even let them floating around as something users may add to their system. Cortana, widely hated and unused, was phased out for one… wordpad being gone is so insignificant, it wasn’t even very good at its primary task.

        They often replace things, e.g. the Photos app had a Video editor built in but now that’s a separate and better app. I think they’re doing a pretty good job of their software range actually.

        What bugs me about Windows is actually their striving so much for backwards compatibility that there’s at least 6 ways to edit things or data and they’re all still officially supported. It’s a bit bloaty and no Devs have any consensus.

        Does someone remembers the PowerToys collection?

        The newer version is installed on my Windows 11 and is under active development.

    • @schzztl@lemmy.nz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      -22 years ago

      I can count on one hand the amount of MS products I’ve vaguely enjoyed using. Most things seems to be designed with the attitude that people will be using this whether they like it or not, making the user experience fucking awful. Nothing wrong with shitting on them.

    • @uberkalden@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      12 years ago

      I would have never thought so many people would be pissed about Wordpad. Fucking Wordpad! It’s terrible! And Ms isn’t killing it to get office subscriptions because no one fucking uses it! They’re killing it because it isn’t worth the effort to maintain. There are so many free alternatives that are better.

  • @lennybird@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    302 years ago

    Honestly, this blows. WordPad fills a niche between a full blown text editor and notepad. Most of my random daily notes use WordPad still when not OneNote.