W10 LTSC has support until 2032 😎
1809 gang rise up
1809
let me get my top hat and monocle
what happened in 1903 that made you say enough?
What is Windows 10 LTSC? LTSC is the abbreviation of Long Term Servicing Channel. It is a stripped-down enterprise operating system based on a specific version of Windows 10. Windows 10 LTSC don’t have pre-installed apps such as Microsoft Edge, Cortana assistant, News, etc. Using the LTSC service model, you can delay receiving feature updates and only receive monthly device quality updates.
Holy SHIT they made a version with the worst stuff removed AND they’re going to maintain it longer? That is the version everybody should be using.
I’m slowly switching to linux but there are things I’m going to need Windows for for the foreseeable future, and I think I’ve found how I can make that happen. Thank you.
It’s used for industrial applications like manufacturing and whatnot, stuff that really doesn’t need to be updated regularly since the software is effectively legacy.
Hell, we’ve got tools from the 2000s still running Win2k.
Well I mainly want it to keep my VR headset running which nobody can get working in linux.
One of these days I’ll replace it and make sure the new one can run on linux, and then I won’t have much keeping me on windows anymore.
yes but they make it hard to access, and it has legal issues too so you maybe shouldn’t use it in a business setting
I discovered recently that they make the regular ISOs hard to access too. It didn’t want to let me download it from a linux machine.
But there’s always a way to access this stuff.
What are the legal issues?
licensing. both if you don’t plan to buy it, and if you do, because as I understand it’s hard to obtain, and maybe hard to keep too
That site’s ai protection won’t let me through. But if the issue is needing a legitimate license them I’m sure that can be overcome in other ways.
it needs cookies and scripts. but it’s just a reddit frontend, feel free to replace the domain with reddit.com or an other redlib instance
Ah okay, so what I’m reading there is that it may be piratable, but a lot of software vendors don’t support it, so there’s a decent risk that software would just randomly stop working, which is the same problem you get with windows 10 long term. Oh well.
Thank you! I had no idea that this existed. This is a solution for me personally, but also a solution for our clusterfuck IT people at work that do not understand that we have hundreds of millions of dollars in contracts that need to be fulfilled with software that costs us $12 per day to use and probably wont run on windows 11, instead of breaking everything and migrating it to a software that costs us $32 a day to use but will work on windows 11.
Let me know how that goes!
(I use the 21H2 Enterprise IoT version, for personal use, i can’t share openly how i obtained it, that is AFAIK the only version that goes up to 2032)
Here are the versions of W10 and their extended support dates. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/release-information
(Since you said you are a enterprise user, I am not sure what is the license eligibility for IoT exactly, but for non-IoT, you can go up to 2029 with version 1809)
This with Windows 11 LTSC IoT edition?
So here we go. Kiosk machines with random Microsoft account and MFA to private phone numbers. Glad I don’t have to manage that pile of s**t.
That’s what W10 LTSC is for.
Until that isn’t supported anymore, yes. It’s a solution… for now.
I will just have to sign it up to a domain then add a local user using the command prompt. Still a lot more trouble than installing it should be but I will not give in to this garbage push to make everyone have a microsoft account. I disable the store and all of it on every PC I install.
Noooooo!!! You can’t just force us to use a Microsoft account!!! You have to allow us to use the bypasserino!!! Noooooooo!!!
We’re removing the bypassnro.cmd script from the build to enhance security and user experience of Windows 11. This change ensures that all users exit setup with internet connectivity and a Microsoft Account.
Any windows fanboy cares to explain how this supposedly enhances a user’s security?
The spin on requiring an internet connection being phrased as ‘ensures all users exit setup with internet connectivity’ is amazing too.
Not wanting to seem like a windows fanboi in the slightest, but… I guess they’re saying that if you log in to your windows box using their cloud authentication, then they can better protect your account, force regular password changes, force password complexity requirements… and because they’re in a position to see all auth attempts against that account, they can react to attacks and patterns of attacks… having said that. a lot of those advantages go away if you’re not actually connected to the internet… but then, you also lose timely updates by not being connected… it’s a difficult question… I can see how it could be better for a non computer-savvy user to log in using a microsoft account, but also worse and more frustrating for advanced users who don’t want to touch microsoft’s cloud at all. I guess they made the decision based on what was better for the majority of users. If you’re upset by this, you’re not really their target audience.
That’s what they’re saying - it’s not true, but it is what they’re saying.
Thank you
Y’all is this true:
No one would accidentally enter the special anti-spyware command so they’re screwing the 1% who are privacy hawks without benefiting the 99% who were already dark patterned into online accounts.
then they can better protect your account, force regular password changes, force password complexity requirements…
if that was the goal, they wouldn’t be saying on the password input screen to “choose the most simple password”, and especially they wouldn’t accept that field to be left blank
if you are not logged in, they can’t setup onedrive to automatically steal all pictures and documents of the unsuspecting user, and they can’t setup bitlocker with a cloud key that they could use to lock you out of all your data when they think so.
windows update has zero reasons to not work without an MS account, and actually it does work that way.
It increases security ^of the Microsoft share price^
It’s double speak.
It’s like when they say “We value your privacy” it really means “Selling your data is worth a lot of money/value to me”.
“User Security” means “We want to secure customers/users for our cloud services by forcing a login to a microsoft account”
My favorite iteration of the first point is “we take your privacy seriously” to “we take your privacy. seriously.”
I’ve got my first son or daughter on the way, I’m thinking they might be learning Linux as their first OS
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The only difference I see both try to follow posix macos follows the unix specification linux doesn’t and that’s about it
Uh… what? They only thing they have in common is following the POSIX standard. The moment you step outside of that POSIX lowest common denominator, it becomes abundantly clear just how different they are.
I mean compared to some elements of windows, yeah Linux is more similar to macos. But compared to other elements of macos, Linux is more similar to windows. But to say it’s super similar to either one in particular is kind of missing what makes each of them what they are.
Macos and Linux skills and fluency aren’t significantly more transferable than between Linux and Windows. They’re three pieces of software that ultimately try to do the same thing, but go about it in drastically different ways. There are only so many ways from your house to the grocery store, so some of them are bound to cross.
Just another reason to switch to Linux
Is this a US thing? I had to install windows 11 in a VM like a month ago and I didn’t have to create MS account or use any bypass scripts.
in the latest preview build
i assume you didn’t install today’s beta release a month ago 😉
EDIT: nevermind, i re-read your comment… it’s mandatory in some regions, I know for sure it’s mandatory in the US and in Hungary (EU).
One other thing is that if you created the installer with Rufus, that adds some magic optionally that can bypass it. I wonder if that still works with this beta.
Install it with the English (World) region
Are people shocked that windows keeps removing things that allow the os to be usable and debloated?
Copilot recording your screen will be a non optional feature before win11 is over.
Seems an alternative, easier method was found: https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered
Relevant part:
But fret not, as a new, perhaps better bypass has already been discovered that still uses the command prompt (which you can open with Shift + F10) and makes skipping the Microsoft Account sign-in step a total breeze.
Discovered by user @witherornot1337 on X, typing “start ms-cxh:localonly” into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience will allow you to create a local account directly without needing to skip connecting to the internet first.
Shit like that has to be a leak, idk how else you’d just pull that out of one’s ass.
“The bypass uses a CXH (cloud experience host) URI (Uniform Resource Identifier) string during the OOBE to invoke the hidden local account setup screen.” this had to be data mined or something yeah.
L I N U X
1000 percent. I did this for myself a year ago and haven’t looked back.
I did 6 months back to linux mint. The experience is smooth
bypassw11.exe
deletemicrosoft.exe
This will be the year of the Linux desktop.
Funny u say that, I’ve switched! 🐧
One of us!
If Microsoft keeps fucking up at every turn, it seems like at some point the only thing that’ll keep them afloat is workplace/education investments in their environment. Seems like they’re even losing their grip on being the default OS preinstalled on non-apple PC hardware and the advantage that provided.
I personally know three, myself included, who are switching right now.
I still have an old copy of the installer with that command intact. Might be good to keep around.
this right here. I had to switch back to windows as just too much software I needed to use doesn’t work on Linux wine or proton be damned. so I just use 21H2 until either Linux support becomes more mainstream or until the less likely option of Microsoft un-enshittifying. (LOL)
