At this point it’s on you if you put any faith in any Google product aside from Search/YT/Adtech to last longer than a couple of years.
Best case scenario: They forget about whatever product you like and it’s allowed to continue running for years with zero updates.
Most likely scenario: They kill it off to merge into another product line that overlaps with a third of the features only to do the exact same thing again within a year or two.
Why is Google trying to follow the model of Spotify even though the model is not really successful? I hate when browsing my music in Spotify some podcast pops up. I just want to listen to my music, dammit!
I can only recommend pocket casts! But I’m aware of the fact that they’ve moved to a subscription model since I purchased the app, and I can only give that recommendation based on my purchase which included full features for life (a deal which has thus far been honored). If the sub is worth is might be another question for someone who has it.
I started using Pocket Casts last year when it was $10 per year. This year they first raised it to $15 per year, and now it is $40 per year. That is too much in my opinion. I’ve had enough with services that nearly always get worse, so I am now using AntennaPod. It is a free open source Android app that doesn’t need accounts or subscriptions.
Ah. Yeah, that’s a bit pricier than it used to be. I do think their web version was worth the money, and I’d probably still subscribe for it if I didn’t buy the services outright back in the day. I’d say it would depend on how one uses it though. If it’s just used as an app, then I’d choose something else. The web service is golden though.
Back in the day I used to like AntennaPod, but I have had my pocket casts service for so long that I can’t say if anything is good these days.
Nah, I’ll migrate to podbean or something else that allows me to listen with the app minimized.
Does Google Podcasts really not support that? Because that’s like… the basics.
Podcasts does but not YouTube unless you pay for a subscription
The current Podcasts app does, but Youtube doesn’t unless you pay for premium. After the migration, if that policy doesn’t change, google’s platform of the week will be useless for podcasts.
YouTube Music is a different app altogether, on mobile devices at least.
YouTube music allows background playback
It used to. They paywalled it with YouTube premium.
Google Podcasts does, but background play is a premium feature on YouTube Music.
InnerTune. No ads, no account. Minimize/do what you want.
Thanks! I’m installing it now.
YouTube Music allows the app to be minimized, AFAIK.
It’s standard YouTube (non-premiun) that requires the app to be in the foreground.
Its a but hacky, but if you disable the youtube app, install firefox and then its “video background player” addon, you can listen to youtube videos/music minimized without paying.
Share to - - > Newpipe Sponsorblock also works.
Is there sponsorblock on the phone?
Yes, on Android:
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Firefox/Fennec/fork of Firefox + Sponsorblock
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Newpipe Sponsorblock
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Youtube Revanced
I wonder why uBlock Origin blocks revanced:
Because it’s not the right webpage. The official page is revanced.app or you can directly go to the github.
Thanks for this, now I have sponsorblock on the phone and on the TV also, very cool!
No problem, the youtube experience without adblock and sponsorblock is bad. If you have AndroidTV, SmartTube is a thing.
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Or install YouTube revanced, and get rid if ads too.
You can also use YouTube in desktop mode in Firefox
Seems to vary depending on whether I’m attempting to listen to music on my device (“attempting to” is the right word as it takes 15 seconds to load each individual song as it goes through a playlist) or listen to a YouTube video. It can go further into the background if it’s music on my device, no further back than a big window drawn over the screen if it’s a podcastable video, and must be in the foreground for a video IIRC.
You can use the YouTube music app with a standard (free) YouTube account, at least on iOS. But the audio only keeps playing in the background if you pay for YouTube music. And I think you can’t download music to play offline.
For what it’s worth, YouTube Premium ($14/ month) includes YouTube music and removes ads for YouTube.
Yt-dlp, Ublock Origin and Newpipe all cost $0 tho
Having YouTube premium means I can use it on any platform. I can use YouTube music on my phone with CarPlay and listen while driving, use the built-in YouTube app that hotel TVs have when I travel for work, watch things on my work computer, on my phone, or using my PS5.
This would be a great moment for The Onion to run a headline like “Google plans to sunset Gmail, migrate users to YouTube Music.”
'No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Business Where This Regularly Happen
I think that one might cause some real pandemonium in that far too many people would think it’s legit.
It used take one single troll to pull it off… back when twitter existed and had any sort of legitimacy.
That should be a very strong indication about how little faith people have in Google now.
“Google plans to require a YouTube Premium subscription to allow users to search while minimized, industry leak claims”
Why would you need Gmail? Just share messages through Google docs
Fucking again… I really let it happen to myself this time…
Killing google play music didn’t make me switch to youtube music, same here
Exactly. YT Music of such a trash interface compared to Google Play Music that I actually bothered to try Spotify when they killed GPM. They’re not accomplishing their goals here
Why are they forcing users to YouTube Music anyway? They could improve the product before killing all of their other services.
YouTube Music doesn’t even remember where you left off. Switch to your phone? Music queue is gone. Close the tab? Music queue is gone. Anything other than an algorithm curated playlist will make you have a shit experience on YouTube Music.
They could at least kept google play music for buying digital music
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But… google podcasts was already owned by them. They aren’t gaining any users by doing this
Overcast is superior to both. And I used to pay for YouTube Music…
Overcast is iPhone only? You were using Google podcasts on your iPhone?
My Google stuff predated my Apple usage. I’m Google-free now, though.
Stitcher seems to be the goto for Android.
Well damn
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The company earlier this year announced YouTube Music would begin supporting podcasts in the U.S., which will expand globally by year-end, and more recently said it was adding the ability for podcasters to upload their RSS feeds to YouTube also by year-end.
The latter is something rival Spotify has also been working on with its rollout of video podcast support to creators worldwide last year along with community features like Q&As and polls.
These migration tools aren’t yet available but will be worked on in the coming weeks and months before being rolled out to all users.
“We know this transition will take time, but these efforts will allow us to build an amazing product and a single destination that rewards creators and artists and provides fans with the best Podcasts experience,” a YouTube blog post explained.
We’re committed to being transparent in communicating future changes with our users and podcasters and will have more to share about this process in the coming months,” it said.
The move will leave only Apple among the major players that hasn’t consolidated music and podcasts into a single destination, as Spotify, Amazon and Pandora all offer both types of audio in their flagship applications.
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What the fuck. I use both apps, but podcasts doesn’t blow at life when it comes to actual podcasts.
I never really explored non-FOSS podcast services, did it offer anything in particular over something like AntennaPod? Is some content exclusive?
No. Google podcasts is very basic minimalistic app.
Many paid/non-FOSS apps provide more features then AntennaPod, or have better layouts, but AntennaPod is one of the FOSS apps that is close enough to being what I really want, that I use it over the rest.
The one feature missing that I’m really baffled by is the ability to customize how your podcasts page is laid out, so hopefully they get around to it one of these days.
Just downloaded it yesterday. Is there some way to get it to cast to other devices (eg Alexa, Nest, TV, etc)?
On an android device you can use Google Home app to run casting.
Oh Google.
They kicked everyone off Google Music to go to YT Music and Google Podcasts. Now they’re killing Google Podcasts and telling people to go to YT Music.
If YT Music wasn’t linked with my YouTube Premium subscription, I would never use it.
I decided to cancel both. YT Music deleted my music that they don’t have in their global library, and they fucked up the sorting of my liked playlist. Going back to buying music a la carte and storing it myself.
I’m old school, but music that isn’t in a file stored on one of my devices doesn’t actually exist for me.
I’m even more old school, music that isn’t cut into vinyl doesn’t exist for me.
(not really, because it’d be very impractical)
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I sometimes decide to try out YouTube Music for playing some of the music I have saved on YT in a more music focused UI.
Then I go back straight back to regular YouTube, because half the songs/music can’t be played in YT Music (including offical music on official channels).
I feel like I get some good value out of YT Premium, but I don’t understand YT Music.
Interesting use case.
I’m opposite. I want 0 video functionality in the app and just want audio. When they made the YouTube integration more visible I started getting the ick.
And, at least for me, the recommendation is by far better, than Spotify was. I had Spotify premium, liked a lot of songs, tried to use it regularly. And when it went on its on after my playlist finished, 5 out of 10 recommended songs were…shit. No matter how much I tried to like or disklike songs. When they started current YT Music (after the Play Music shutdown), I tried it and it was leagues better from the get-go (the recommendations, that is). I assume that’s because they have my 10+ years old YT history. Anyway, I cancelled Spotify and happily use YT Music.
I’m well aware that it could be different for everybody.
Any recommendations for android? I know there’s pocket casts but I’m not paying a subscription for a podcast app. All I need it to do is literally find the podcast then click play. I’m not really sure what there even is to innovate on for apps to charge you.
I like AntennaPod.
pocket cast is free to use, no?
Yeah. I don’t pay for pocket cast.
If you only listen to podcasts on your phone, I can highly recommend AntennaPod. It is free and open source. I have been using it for around 6 months now since Pocket Casts increased from $10 to $40 per year.
Is it subscription now? I paid like $3 for it once ten years ago.
Yeah, I’m holding on to the lifetime grandfathered premium and don’t foresee myself using anything else until they end it.
It is free for most features, but the paid subscription is now $40 per year.
Podcast Republic is my go to. I listen to 5 or 6 podcasts. But have 2 or 3 that are time relevant, like news. I set those as priority, and Podcast Republic makes an auto playlist that puts them all in order by my preference, then release date old to new.
If a preferred podcast comes out, it goes to the top of my auto playlist. I can’t podcast without it now.
God damnit…
I think I’m the only person on the internet that likes YT Music.
May I ask why?
Personally, I find its UI/UX is annoying. The quality of the sound is awesome, though.
I think so, too 😀. I much preferred Google Play Music. I also hate that I now get music recommendations when I’m trying to watch TV.
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That seems plausible.
