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Wow. This is why owning DVDs is better. And if you can’t buy, download via torrents. Imagine these bastards rolling up to your home and reclaiming a movie you physically purchased. We gave them too much power. Time to withdraw it. Convenience is not worth this shit. Get uncomfortable and get your entertainment away from these streamers who don’t give customers what they paid for.
DVD rental stores could surely make a comeback given these new developments. Libraries still loan movies as well. Remember, Barnes & Noble didn’t run all independent bookstores out of business. And after Amazon savaged Barnes & Noble, Amazon Books suddenly came into existence (2015 - 2022). Greed driven corporations aren’t the answer.
Yeah that’ll happen for anything streamed and licensed.
If you want to own something, you need to own it physically. Buy an actual disk. People won’t and I’ll be surprised if they are still making blurays at all in ten years but that’s the only way you can actually buy media now.
I’m actually still kinda surprised about this. My understanding is that the licenses from rights holders to streaming platforms generally included an indefinite right to stream to people who’d purchased content, even if they may not offer it for continued purchase or as part of the general included streaming library.
That’s definitely how it works with games on Steam or GOG.
Unless you bought after-market keys like on G2A and it turned out to be stolen/keygen’d. Valve will remove your game if your key is found to be stolen (whether you knew it or not). I imagine you know this but just felt it bore mentioning.
Good point, yes, that’s an exception. A justified one if you’d ask me but I guess YMMV.
iTunes as well. There are a few things I can still stream that are no longer sold.
I have dozens of games in my library that are no longer available to purchase. Often these are games with expired music copyright, though some just removed the music in an update instead. I don’t remember a single withdrawn game that would get removed from my library.
My point was it’s likely within Steam’s rights and terms and conditions. If they needed to or wanted to they likely could remove a game from someone’s library but they likely know the overwhelming backlash that they would face.
For example games like Rimworld and Disco Elysium were, at a time, banned in Australia. I don’t believe they were removed from online storefronts but if there was ever enough legal pressure maybe something could have happened. There is a Steam Support page for regional restrictions but it doesn’t mention anything in regards to accessing games that have become banned in your country, contained malicious code, or somehow were infringing on copyrighted materials.
I think Codename: Gordon and Order of War were removed. I could be mistaken though.
On a sidenote I imagine removing Steam’s DRM using a Steam emulator is in some ways against their terms and conditions. Even though there are some DRM free games on Steam like the original Fallout if I am remembering correctly.
Edit: In regards to my last point I think this is the section from the subscriber agreement that may involve Steam emulators
“… host or provide matchmaking services for the Content and Services or emulate or redirect the communication protocols used by Valve in any network feature of the Content and Services, through protocol emulation, tunneling, modifying or adding components to the Content and Services …”
Streaming isn’t the same as downloading. It has different rights and with movies it’s especially complicated. The rights to a movie can literally be so complicated that no one knows who owns it.
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If you want to own something, you need to own it physically.
Minor sticking point: it’s still a “limited license.” You don’t really “own” anything and if that physical copy is damaged or destroyed you’re just SOL.
Streaming, digital, physical, everything has a drawback! Backups are your friend.
Yes, you don’t own the copyright. You do own the physical disk, and you also have a right to backup a personal copy.
It’s not a sticking point, it’s a feature. Take care of your shit just like all your other shit. No one says it’s a sticking point to say that a kettle you buy could break, that’s just normal part of ownership of a thing.
Feature, sticking point, call it what you want. I’m just saying there’s nuance to it.
Just like with DVDs 🙄
I’ve legitimately lost hundreds of dollars of content without even getting refunded; So consider yourself lucky! To get a gift card instead; ANYWAY I now pirate all my things minus idk I guess my video game consumption but even then I had the luxury to pirate shit I bought on steam just to have it again. In the end of the day though you don’t really own anything unless you own it physical and even then its still illegal to use makemkv to dump your blurays and dvds onto your nas and watch them outside of the physical media they were put on. But I guess thats just living in the future for ya!
That’s bullshit
That’s why I stopped using streaming services and started robbing studio executives and using the proceeds to buy physical media from the dude parked in front of the FastTax.
Just wanted to mention that torrentgalaxy.to, rutracker.org, 1337x.to and therarbg.com won’t ever remove anything from your library.
and setting up a jellyfin server gives you a netflix-like interface. FOSS at its finest
Jellyfin is so good. I’m travelling internationally right now and it makes me smile that I can stream stuff from my home at any time. I’m gonna miss Netflix DVD because I would get Blu-rays and rip them to my media library
How did you set the whole thing up? Do you have a step by step that idiots can follow?
I set it up a while ago but if you search for guides I’m 100% sure you’ll find them. I think jellyfin has their own guides. It gets a bit more complicated when you want to access it from outside your network. I use ddns (dynamic DNS) because my ISP doesn’t give static addresses to residential customers. This allows me to have a hostname of xxxx.ddns.net. then I had to set up port forwarding on my router so that the jellyfin traffic is allowed through to my desktop that that is running jellyfin and has all my media. Internally on your LAN you’ll need to have a static IP for your desktop too.
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They have removed a lot of empty disk space from my library :(
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And they reimburse you that money with a gift card? Is that even legal?
I moved from UK to France, and lost access to my movies on Prime.
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Amazon has made I harder and harder to download the raw audio files of music purchases, at this point I have to download it on my PC only to get the files on my disk, if I have a phone they have even managed to identify when you are using desktop mode on your browser and still tells you to download Amazon music.
This is why I use xManager for free Spotify Premium, YouTube Revanced for free YouTube premium, and torrent everything else that I need. I’m so tired of subscriptions for literally everything.
You don’t own the video file. You own access to their video file, which they also don’t own, they only own the right to distribute it. If their distribution contract ends and doesn’t gets renewed, then they can’t let you access the file. At least they refunded you. This system is one of the issues with the ongoing writers and actors strikes. Amazon can decide to stop making a video available, which cuts all dividends revenues to actors and writers. So having a video available for you to watch costs money to Amazon (or Netflix or Max…) but not enough content makes users unsubscribe, so they ride that thin line for maximized revenue. This means that older movies that aren’t blockbusters get dropped in favor of new content. Now new content doesn’t means good content, remember, it needs to be as cheap as possible. Aaand this is why steaming companies are spiraling down and everything is going to shit. Filmmaking is an art form turned into an industry. But art isn’t about maximized profit, it’s about art first. But you can’t make that art without millions of dollars and that requires the art to take a step back to maximize profit, but not too far back. It’s a really big issue in the film and entertainment industry.
— I’m an IATSE local 600 camera operator.
Richard Stallman already talked about this Here is the article: https://stallman.org/amazon.html
If companies won’t sell you a DRM-free copy of media, just pirate it. It’s the only way to actually own it.