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Fix poverty and you fix a huge amount of other things.
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Because fixing poverty lowers criminality.
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Good point. It’s the poorest cities and neighborhoods that have the lowest crime rate. Forgot about that, thanks for educating.
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“The robots are constantly monitored and equipped with 12 cameras and two-way audio communication systems. Any improper conduct will be detected immediately. If an incident does occur with a Starship robot, one of our robot rescuers can respond quickly,” robot builder Starship Technologies says regarding robot safety, adding that acts of vandalism or theft are reported to authorities.
While that may be true in theory, instances of actual prosecution for theft from robots in cities where they operate have not been easy to discover. As with far more widespread instances of front porch package thieves or shoplifters, despite the volume of video evidence the robots can produce the police have to actually take some investigative steps to identify and locate the suspects
I’m glad they’ve thought this through.
the police have to actually take some investigative steps to identify and locate the suspects
cops give zero fucks when crimes effect everyday citizens.
Do you have holiday citizens in your country?
Sure do. Rich business owners.
How dare they expect cops to “take some investigative steps?” We’ll arrest the criminals when you bring them in for us, along with evidence.
When wasn’t it going to be a thing?
What a pathetic bunch of people trying to maintain the slave status quo in these comments. WHY are you fighting to maintain a world where people have to work low tier bull shit jobs to survive? The answer, you morons, is to let the robots be and improve society to the point technology said it would. We re the most productive we’ve ever been in our entire history yet work more than any other time in history. We need work reform, not a robot genocide.
In an ideal world these robots would shift to there not being a need for “unskilled labor” and we would all have more leisure time. In the late stage capitalistic hellhole we are forced to live in, huge organization replace minimum wage jobs with robots and hoard profits and push people further unto poverty, while still overworking and underpaying the few people they do still employ.
If we had a ubi, then robots and self checkouts taking minimum wage jobs wouldn’t be an issue because the person who’s job was taken isn’t just displaced and faces homelessness or death.
So I sympathize with the people who are complaining about the robots. As much as I want a scifi future with a bunch of automation, I want exploitation of the lower class to end first.
Which is literally what my comment says, it’s a work reform problem not a robot problem. This is literally exhausting your anger and energy on the wrong thing. Do you really think destroying some robots will change society?
Destroying robots won’t change society, but it can give you free shit.
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Yes I’m sure you’ll be all for it till someone lifts your shit. Then you’ll cry like the little bitch you are. Typical fuck you I got mine mindset.
The unemployment rates in the USA and Canada are both far below norms. These robots aren’t taking anyone’s irreplaceable job. Of all the things they are (ugly, intrusive, annoying), one of the things they’re not doing is driving up unemployment. At worst, someone has to change jobs.
Del Spooner would like a word with you.
let the robots be and improve society to the point technology said it would. We re the most productive we’ve ever been in our entire history yet work more than any other time in history. We need work reform, not a robot genocide.
I am in agreement with you, but the problem is the work reform part is not forthcoming. The delivery robots didn’t come with a helping of any kind of labor reform, whatsoever, and will not come with one either without some kind of violence to usher in the deal. The capitalist class would not allow it to happen any other way.
Is lemmy like the unofficial gathering place for commies? I see more commie garbage on here than reddit, which is saying something.
Where is the “commie garbage”?
People here are making valid complaints about the state of society.
Most people know that communism isn’t the answer.
Mostly everyone who says taking someone else’s property is okay if you feel they deserve it, or the seller deserves it. If you don’t see a huge commie bent here, then I would assume it’s because you are a commie or are commie-adjacent. For real, maybe I’ve just stumbled on the perfect mix, but I’m finding lemmy to be rife so far.
Mostly everyone who says taking someone else’s property is okay if you feel they deserve it
I don’t think that’s ok. Humans need their space, man.
If you don’t see a huge commie bent here, then I would assume it’s because you are a commie or are commie-adjacent
I see a moderate and a left bent here. Both of those I vibe with, but the left isn’t synonymous with communism or even marxism.
And there’s also idealism, of course - there’s plenty of that everywhere on the Internet.
My view of the left is that they want an infra that’s more aligned with the EU or Scandanavia.
That’s definitely not communism. NK is communist, and there are very few people who want NK.
If you truly believe that it still makes 0 sense to use the violence against the robots who have 0 idea why they’re being attacked and even when destroyed change nothing(because destroying these won’t stop companies from making better more lethal versions).
When I said violence I don’t mean against the robots (which you can damage but not commit violence against). It’s just a computer on wheels. I meant that labor reform will involve violence between people in the labor class and the capital class. Our American history is full of examples of exactly this kind of thing happening between a protest labor movement and its countervailing force.
Low income white neighborhoods have lower crime rates than black middle/high income neighborhoods. There is no more blind person that the one who doesnt want to see.
yet work more than any other time in history
1903 would like a word.
yet work more than any other time in history.
My impression is that we’re the most leisurely, per capita, than we’ve ever been. The average workweek now is 34 hours, down from 60-70 in the 1850s.
I would disagree about your average because it’s brought down by people working multiple jobs that won’t generally staff them past those 30ish hours or what ever the magic number is to be just under the required time to be eligible for a benefits package. It’s a widely known problem in the work force.
https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/what-are-full-time-hours
I would disagree about your average because it’s brought down by people working multiple jobs
No, as these are the numbers reported by worker’s themselves (Robert Whaples’s research) and not by their disparate employers. But looking at it as you suggested, it comes out to 34.3 hours.
Here are two more views on it:
https://ourworldindata.org/working-more-than-ever (world trends)
Lol? What you just said doesn’t disprove what I said. If people work multiple jobs their hours will be lower. Nothing in your studies you presented said people only work 1 job. Just that the hours at any given job are only 30ish hours. Still doesn’t talk about people working more than 1 job.
Fucking right? This hurts literally nobody. You know what I’m going to do when I see people who need to survive by taking from these robots? Exactly nothing.
It hurts no one? Besides the company that has to replace those items and the person who paid to order them durrrrrrrrrrr.
Won’t someone think of the poor CEOs?
Small businesses don’t have CEOs and often employ their whole family.
Are small businesses the ones using these robots?
In the case of uber Eats and many non-chain pharmacies, yes. We have Wing here which solves the theft problem.
My brain assumed from the title that this would actually be about robot porch pirates now prowling the neighbourhood. I’m thankful we’re not there… yet.
At least we’ve moved on from killing them in the street.
Poor hitch-hiking bot.
RIP
Arm the robots.
some robots have been robbed of the goods they’re delivering, including food.
That was easy to predict, wasn’t it?
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time to stock up on crowbars and sledgehammers
Oh, I’ll get mine from Amazon. They do 1 hour drone delivery now.
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I’ll get my own crowbars and sledgehammers, with blackjack and hookers!
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You seem like a person who would enjoy a forced labour!
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No one says “I want to live in a totalitarian shithole” better than a veteran
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Same as any Trumper in my view
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“they aren’t authoritarian bootlickers when they support my interests” is such a mask-off take.
Everyday we are one step closer to the plot of Demolition Man. I cannot wait to taste some boosted Taco Bell.
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They’re bidet controls. One would be for front wash, another for rear wash, and the third one for air dry. There may be temperature controls hidden somewhere nearby, or more likely the system recognizes the user and automatically uses those temperature settings, and the seashells are just gussied up push buttons.
This is the most plausible and simultaneously worst possible answer to that bit.
These robots are a hazard and a nuisance to the pedestrians. I won’t shed a single tear for these tincans on wheels. I would not order one of these either.
Yeah cars are so much better and safer \s
You don’t get to choose if your order is delivered by one… these have been in operation worldwide since 2014, alongside traditional delivery drivers
Fuck those cogs or any human that dares to be an aug. I’ll trashem whenever I see em.
“Cogs” - did you really just use a slur they invented for Deus Ex game as a real slur? Gonna call them clanks and hanzers too?
Even if you did, you realize those are in universe slurs and indicate the person is ignorant, right?
Without that context the above comment is deranged.
“you wouldn’t -d̵o̵w̵n̵l̵o̵a̵d̵- drone-rob a pizza…”
Sitting behind garbage bean with my Anti drone to rob a pizza.
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Looks like it does! Your double ~~ are rendering strikethrough for me (Jerboa)
I had searched it up but didn’t find it and just went with a shitty ASCII overlay haha
Well, this is a side of snow crash I didn’t expect to see so soon.
Actually just had that book delivered today, pretty excited to read it
For me, this falls neatly into the “who fucking cares?” category. These things are deployed in very few cities overall and if the technology is ready for wide-release, you better have a more effective defense against theft than you already do if they are already being stolen from
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It’s not like these are high paying, highly desired jobs being replaced by robots. These are shit jobs that are a waste of time and talent to have done by humans.
These are shit jobs that are a waste of time and talent to have done by humans. I don’t know. I’ve met some humans who are definitely not talented enough for package delivery. Most of them working package delivery.
I’m sorry I couldn’t be bothered to deliver your parcel to your house, so here’s a picture of my foot.
Just because someone doesn’t give a shit about their useless job, doesn’t mean they don’t have useful talents in other areas.
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I would rather have these people painting, making music, cleaning up polluted rivers, basically anything that is useful to humanity that can’t be done by robots. If it can be done by a robot, it should be. Keeping jobs from being automated just to keep people busy is insanity to me. If society has to find this kind of work to allow people to survive, so be it.
Until the robots become sentient then fight back?
“Skynet was developed to be the command and control system for
the militaryfood delivery robots.”mf have you seen robot wars/battlebots? they just need a flywheel weapon and they’re good for self defence.
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don’t even need to be sentient. just mount a rail gun on a Spot and then we’re off to the Skynet races 🤖
