The IRS rules governing nonprofits still required the Mozilla Foundation to beg big to go big: the parent had to go find big grants from Soros, Ford, Knight, MacArthur, and give smaller grants to many. This put it in the lefties-only-no-righty-Irish-need-apply revolving-door personnel sector of NGOs and nonprofits (too many glowies there for me, too). Which meant I had a hostile MoFo over my head the minute I got CEO appointment from the MoCo board…
Of course I can’t comment on anything about my exit, for reasons that only the most loopy HN h8ers still can’t figure out.
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As a reminder, Eich was turfed from Mozilla for joining an anti-LGBT hate campaign (and thus alienating a whole lot of developers, sponsors, and users); and his So Brave browser pushed NFTs and stole money via referral fraud.
If I’m reading their financial records correctly, the year he left Mozilla was the year he was paid the most, even though he didn’t stick around for most of it. So this retelling of history is, at best, incomplete…
Fascists lie.
Are you sure? You can’t just lie on the internet. Who would lie on the internet? Is it even possible to lie on the internet? I don’t think it is.
Ladies, I have a 12 inch penis and 34 million dollars. Call me.
I’ve got a 34mm penis and 12 dollars. Any takers? Ladies?
Not a lady, but I could use the twelve bucks.
That is usually how severance packages work
He was CEO briefly, until the controversy over his appointment got loud enough. It makes sense he would’ve been paid the most that year, especially with the golden parachute CEOs get when they leave.
His appointment remains one of the most damaging events in Mozilla’s history, as it led to the resignation of multiple prior leaders (including previous CEOs). Making him CEO might’ve been Mitch Baker’s worst decision as chairwoman.
I mean, he’s technically better-behaving than Mozilla itself then.
But I think these endless splits over disagreements and inability to cooperate in the split state are systemic.
So maybe the whole typical-left “let’s unite and make a thing and boot everyone who shows a sign of rot” is systemically harmful. See, people who show signs of rot - they are the better kind. The really bad people don’t show any signs of rot until it’s too late. Actually they may not show anything, be like Mozilla tops.
And also one kind of rot is not rot for some people, and the other is not rot for other group of people, and so on. It would be good to build a way of cooperation where people are impeded from cooperation only with whom they themselves disagree, and not the majority.
Same as my other idea that there should be a way of moderation, where a person’s ability to choose is strengthened with all the amazing technology we have, and not with benevolent MITM.
these conservative actually think theres an actual boogeyman" left " in america.
A word’s meaning is how it’s used. Also yes, there are.
I think the important separation is not between left and right, it’s between truth and lie, or between principle and momentary gain.
Anyone not goose-stepping in jackboots is a dangerous leftie to them.
Oh, is that where the name Brave came from?
Brave is a peter thiel project.
Fact.
so brave.
Yeah I parsed it the same way, shluld really say “CEO of BRAVE™”
I didn’t know that word.
Noun
glowie (plural glowies)
- (Internet slang, derogatory, far-right) A government agent or informant infiltrating an online political space, with the supposed intention of surveilling violent extremists or provoking entrapment.
Ohh, Thanks I did need a dictionary for the OP, but you still left out the racist 4chan verbiage around the etymology (“CIA N*s glow in the dark”). https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/glowie#English
Yeah… didn’t expect Google to plain text that one for me…
It’s a bit worse than that, the term started with a slur attached
Glowie, also known as a Glown*****, is a slang term popular on 4chan’s /pol/ board used in reference to CIA or other governmental agents posing as ordinary 4chan users…
The originator of the term is the late Terry Davis, a paranoid schizophrenic and developer of TempleOS. He used to go on angry rants about “glow in the dark CIA niggers”, or glowies for short.
He was discovered by 4channers and harassed up until his death. His choice of language, and mental deterioration, were due to them in no small part
If that dude got proper support, he could have done wonders; he made animated icons for his 16-color assembly-coded OS, and a simple 3d racer! All by himself!
Yeah, he was definitely talented. It’s unfortunate that he was not only schizophrenic, but also had followers that made it worse.
Damn, I didn’t know he got Chris Chan’d. Ugh. So fucking tragic.
So it’s a narc, but if you’re racist
Does anyone know of a decent browser that syncs between Android and Windows versions that isn’t Firefox based? Mobile Firefox’s UX is not my cup of tea
try Vivaldi.
Regardless of the CEO, Brave is a great product. The crypto stuff is easy to turn off. Fantastic ad blocking, rarely any problems. What is the best alternative with great ad blocking?
I used it as a secondary browser for a while. I didn’t particularly care for it. It’s a shame Edge is spyware corporate garbage because that’s probably the best Chromium browser besides Ungoogled Chromium. I use Librewolf and the CachyOS browser now.
They stole money by adding donation links to content creators pages, then didn’t give the donated money to the creators.
I don’t know what that has to do with my question? I am not defending anything like that
It was a comment on your claim that brave is a great product.
Straight up scamming their users is in my opinion not something that is done by “great products”.
Other examples is that Web browser that added their own referral code when users bought stuff on a crypto exchange. Oops, that was brave as well.
Or that one that installed a paid vpn service during an update, without user consent.
You guessed it, brave that as well.
None of that affects the average user. I’m talking about the experience as a browser. No ads, popups, cookie walls, newsletter signup, none of that. Much better than I’ve seen with Firefox plugins. I don’t use their VPN or crypto, it doesn’t affect me at all. Crypto is always shady but it’s a choice to engage with that, and they do make it easy to avoid completely
Of course it affects the average user, if nothing else then by showing that the browser can’t be trusted.
If the people making the browser is willing to alter the Web pages people visit to steal money once, what makes you think they aren’t willing to do so again for any number of reasons?
I see how they didn’t answer the question. However, maybe they’re not answering your question but commenting on “Brave is a great product”.
That doesn’t make it a bad product. I’ve never interacted with any of the crypto or donation stuff. You go into settings, click “no thanks” and are never bothered by any of that ever again. So no, these stories people repeat ad nauseam don’t take away anything from the product. Why don’t other people demand better from the alternatives? If there is one better than Brave at fighting popups and stuff, I’m all for it
You will not be getting an invite to my next BBQ.
Haha, that’s quite alright. I knew I wasn’t going to win a popularity contest here, I just enjoy Brave for what it does and I wish uBlock Origin was just as good
“Jim occasionally bullies his colleagues but he is a good person otherwise”
Literally every other browser with uBlock Origin? I am still able to use it even on Chrome.
I have more problems with uBlock Origin breaking the website. Also, it doesn’t block other elements such as cookie walls and news letter signup garbage.
some sites that are anti-adblock will "break: with ublock orgin, and some with adguard or privacy badger, i just turn one of those off and its fine.
I never had any issues using ublock origin.
& Creating own filters in ublock is really easy.
For example i block YouTube shorts using ublock.
Oh my god why haven’t I done this yet
Vivaldi to replace brave if Firefox is not enough
Vivaldi is a very good browser, but if you want to support open web standards it would be better to use a non-Chromium-based browser like one of the Firefox derivatives. Also Vivaldi is closed source. Still, I do like Vivaldi.
Of course ff over everything. Zen browser is nice too. I say Vivaldi because of the chromium/blink rendering engines, Vivaldi has a consistent track record. They haven’t tried to push any crypto down your throat and uBo still functions. They offer a different experience and welcome their community feedback
Vivaldi’s UI is so irritatingly laggy. Their feature set is great, but my 5800x3d can’t make it change tabs smoothly and quickly.
I love Cromite, in that case. Lightning fast, barebones like Chromium, and has the best built in anti-fingerprinting I know of.
That’s a damn shame. Any other browsers look good on a tablet?
Zen’s been pretty nice so far.
I think Waterfox looks pretty great and works well for me. Not sure how different it is from Firefox Mobile itself since I switched from Chrome to Waterfox directly, but assume Firefox probably looks pretty similar.
I like Vivaldi
Liking it so far, much appreciated!
Sounds like pretty standard far right brainrot.
Not shocked the fake coin browser has a right-wing CEO.
The origin story of Brave is entirely right-wing. He was forced out of Mozilla because of his public stances on political topics. It’s no secret that after being forced out for his politics, he went on to create a new browser company.
yeah brave always felt gross and i remember them doing shady crap for years.
What is a “real coin”? Like a nickel? The little pieces of cheap metal with slavers on it?
The whole point of fake coins is to trade them for real coins.
Yeah, a lot of people say things like “a BloingCoin is worth €1000” or “1 PissBux is worth more than a barrel of oil” but, like, so what? I know how many apples I can buy with €1 (about two). How many apples can I buy with a BloingCoin or a PissBux? Or, for that matter, a barrel of oil?
Can I pay my taxes, rent, and student loans in your currency? If not then it’s not real money
Exactly this. People who buy crypto with Real Money only do so in the expectation that they’ll later be able to sell it for more Real Money. By design, it doesn’t represent labor, materials, services, anything of actual worth, it just sucks the value out of fiat currency like a parasite.
Yes (Chad face)
You know, currency you can actually buy things with.
Oh, BTC.
Gross
This kind of statement have way less impact when people already have 0 goodwill toward the one that says it.
This spineless mouth breather just realised there’s a buck to be made by glazing other alt-right mouth breathers. At least he can finally be himself now. Thankfully, his product is just google chrome repackaged and thereby sucks major ass.
just realised
“Just”? No, he’s always been open about this, and that’s why his appointment as Mozilla CEO was so controversial in 2014, and why the board revolted and he ended up resigning 11 days into his tenure.
The whole origin story of Brave is steeped in right wing politics.
I’m confused what is this about?
some idiot that poisoned the internet from the very beginning is an asshole.
This jackass wrote js in 2 weeks at netscape and now nulls aren’t equal to other nulls.
Damn I just switched to this idiots browser
We could have had Scheme in the browser instead, but the control freaks won and we got saddled with an inferior language instead, misleadingly named after Java because it was so long ago that some people still thought Java was cool.
sudo apt remove brave-browser
k who’s next?
Is ungoogeled-chromium any less skeezy? It’s not my main browser but every now and then I need a Chrome based browser or some sites just don’t work right.
Ungoogled Chromium does a really good job of taking Google out of Chrome, so far less skeezy. None of that cryptocurrency stuff either.
What cryptocurrency is integrated into Chrome?
I imagine the implication is that no cryptocurrency stuff is inserted in the spot that google once occupied.
Are there any forks that aren’t infested with rabid honeybadgers?
At least two.
Pretty sure the cryptocurrency comment is referring to Brave, not Chrome.
Oh.
Gross.
Thorium’s OK too.
Maybe zen browser! Idk, my only hope is either Ladybird or Servo producing something usable this decade.
I like Zen ! Ladybird Pre-Alpha is scheduled for 2026, so, yeah, maybe this decade.
Hey I really liked Zen too! But I’m having trouble opening new tabs, like when I’m on a random webpage on the first tab, I go Ctrl T and the prompt comes up. I type in a search query or a URL and when I press enter, it’s a toss up whether the browser decides to override the current tab I’m on or actually load it in a second tab. Is anyone else facing the same issue or did I misconfigure something?
Sudo apt remove hyprland, when you are on it
try out graphene os if you haven’t
I’ve been trying to move away from Google Chrome for awhile now. Brave was the easiest move for me - it’s super slick and almost exactly like Google Chorme. But they just cannot help themselves from pushing Cryto BS on the startup page like every day - it’s weird. I get they offset advertisements with Crypto, and maybe before The President ran a Crypto rugpull I’d be onboard, but now that the Rich Elites have publicly shown their hand in how they want to use Crypto I just can’t support Brave.
Anyway, I’ve moved to Opera for the time being. If anyone else has suggestions I’m open to hear em, but like, I’m too used to webkit devtools.
After Firefox changed its TOS a lot of people (including me) have jumped to LibreWolf. It takes FF, removes any parts that phone home, and turns on many privacy options.
It takes a little tweaking to make all websites work correctly. I have it running almost perfectly on windoze. I tried installing on Ubuntu last night but my Linux newbie status held me back.
Turn it all off and it’s no more in your face. The browser itself functions great when configured according to your needs.
Fuck their CEO though. Focus on the product. It works and consistently ranks as one of the highest orivacy based browser according to the EFF and multiple non profit sources.
At that point, why give the nazi fuck any browser usage? If you don’t trust the source, don’t trust the product.
Like the other person said, use Ungoogled Chromium. I use it on a couple of my devices and it works pretty well.
The thing I’ve started to notice is the further you stray away from a big box products and into micro custom solutions there is always trade-offs. So far as being unique and the hassle that comes with it maintenance.
The more hands off you are big corpo and I agree they aren’t your friends, the more you have to maintain the software or setup personally. Or trust the person or people doing it all day everyday and never let up.
I trust other people mostly, who’s job it is to do these things all day everyday. Having 3rd parties to audit them, than I could be able to, or would want to, consistently maintain software at the standard it requires with the fast changing landscape we have today.
While you gain more features to some degree, you lose in others like security against vulnerabilities and sheer eyes and minds on the code.
Fuck their CEO if he is off the wall. Focus on the goal of privacy and the tool you need, the rest is fluff. Use what you need first then want.
Do you know any alternative to forgetful browsing? Basically the only thing keeping me. Just so much more convenient always-on incognito mode.
Also the fact that I can just turn off all the stuff that makes them money.
Also I don’t expect manifest v2 support on ungoogled chromium to be reliable.
Edit: just remembered this exists: https://github.com/Cookie-AutoDelete/Cookie-AutoDelete. Currently trying it out with ironfox.
Edit2: Apparently LibreWolf has this button to add websites to the exclusion list for cookie deletion on exit if you click the lock button
Brave browser is a litmus test.
Always has been. I considered anyone who used it slightly sus until further proof. And if they basically advertised it, I considered them too far gone to try anything else.
99% of people don’t care about the things that you care about, and use the products they enjoy using. Classifying people by the web browser they use is crazy talk.
When it’s owned and operated by a literal open bigot and the fact it only became popular after the bigot was removed from his office chair because of it? Yes, that’s a valid reason.
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When it’s owned and operated by a literal open bigot and the fact it only became popular after the bigot was removed from his office chair because of it, I have every reason to question why someone uses a browser that promotes crypto, and steals from the content creators it said it funds.
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