FCC chair wants to boost broadband standard to 100Mbps::First refresh of minimums in eight years for the country that invented the internet

  • @rusticus1773@lemmy.ml
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    302 years ago

    Welcome to the United States, where consumers built the internet infrastructure that monopolies profit from and fight tooth and nail to prevent communities from providing high speed internet to its residents. Capitalism at its most corrupt: privatize profits and socialize capital costs and losses.

  • @norske@lemmynsfw.com
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    72 years ago

    I lived just outside of Tucson, AZ during Covid. When we bought our house, we were assured that xfinity was extending service to our house and beyond shortly. We tried getting the service and they sent out a truck to do a site survey. Xfinity said “lol no”. Our options were CenturyLink dsl with top speed of 3mpbs down and 768k up or a narrow band wireless repeater service from town. None of those were able to even support a 480p stream of tv, let alone the needs of having to switch to 100% remote. We wound up having to use a shitty 4g LTE router that used some sort data plan through AT&T. 150gb data cap and beyond it throttled down to 3g speeds. At the time starlink was accepting people into a beta but not as far south as we lived in the desert.

    Luckily we were able to sell that place and relocate to a much better place. We now have municipal broadband with no caps and a static ip. They are building out fiber services to the underserved rural places around town first and then building here and I’m excited to someday have fiber.

    • @Cobrachickenwing@lemmy.ca
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      92 years ago

      It is bullshit that muni broadband is sued to oblivion while the incumbents are allowed to provide shitty internet while red lining rural and poor areas.

      • @norske@lemmynsfw.com
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        22 years ago

        I’m so glad I was able to find a place with municipal internet. It was one of our criteria , but one we were prepared to give up on as we were getting more desperate in our search for a house.

  • @mhz@lemmy.world
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    62 years ago

    I’m paying $25 fo a 20mbps ADSL, but I only get 16down/1up due to the cable degradation.

  • @jb007gd@lemmy.one
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    422 years ago

    What about net neutrality? Does anyone remember net neutrality? I’d like that back please. I’d also like the opportunity to publicly flog Ajit Pai as long as we’re dreaming.

    • @Gork@lemm.ee
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      82 years ago

      I would be content with just stealing his comically oversized Reese’s mug.

    • Queen HawlSera
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      42 years ago

      Remember when he immediately caught shit for his rebuttal video because he used GOT footage without permission?

    • @over_clox@lemmy.world
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      22 years ago

      I literally wrote a bot to spam messages promoting Net Neutrality while that was up for vote.

      Sucks it didn’t work out, but I surely tried.

      • SeaJ
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        22 years ago

        That was one of the reasons given for ignoring the comments and killing net neutrality. He would have done it regardless though.

  • @over_clox@lemmy.world
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    72 years ago

    And? CableOne promised us 300Mbps, we already had 100. Then they went and renamed themselves Sparklight…

    Guess what went out the window?..

  • BrooklynMan
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    142 years ago

    why just 100Mbps? why not 250? that’s still pretty simple for them to do. also: net neutrality, dammit!

  • @mr_tyler_durden@lemmy.world
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    252 years ago

    Gigabit symmetrical or GTFO.

    I pay something like $110/mo for my symmetrical gigabit fiber line (plus static IP). This should be the standard, not 100Mbps.

    • @mayonaise_met@feddit.nl
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      42 years ago

      I pay €32.5 for gigabit, but honestly it’s overkill for most people. I only got it because a competitor of my ISP was doing a promotion which got me from a 50 mbit (60-70 in practise) at around the same price to a gigabit for a year.

      I honestly only used it to its full potential downloading a tv show because a certain streaming provider who pulled the plug on family sharing decided my house isn’t my house and I couldn’t watch the shows I paid to watch.

  • nostradiel
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    72 years ago

    I pay 30$ for 1Gb/s down, 250Mb/s up. It’s usually around 40$ in the Czech Republic.

    • @theangryseal@lemmy.world
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      62 years ago

      At my house I get 500mbps. My store (40 miles away) gets 15mbps. I pay significantly less at home.

      Not just that but you have to pay extra to avoid a data cap on the 15mbps line.

    • @picassowary@lemmy.world
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      162 years ago

      where i live my choices are fixed beam wireless internet that caps out at about 75mbps, at&t dsl that caps at 10mbps, satellite or i guess Starlink

        • @picassowary@lemmy.world
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          122 years ago

          super healthy, very competitive

          did i mention that i barely get 5G service at my home but if i walk 100ft down to the street i get service?

            • @picassowary@lemmy.world
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              22 years ago

              yeah, i thought about it for a while. ultimately it’s so rarely an issue that i decided not to pursue it, but it’s funny nonetheless

          • @brightandshinyobject@lemmy.world
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            32 years ago

            Gotta love that, there are technically two providers in my area, no fiber, one of them supports asymmetric gigdown/30 up for $130/month cable and 60 mb dsl fo $70/momth. My mother who lives 15 minutes from me has symmetric gigabit fiber for $70 from the same provider that does DSL for me.

            • @picassowary@lemmy.world
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              32 years ago

              oh same, if i go half a mile down the road to the next housing development they have cable, fiber, dsl, the works at prices equivalent to or less than what i’m paying for the fixed beam wireless connection.

              utterly insane

          • @cookiecollision@lemmy.world
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            In my small town, we only had 4g lte, but it was quick. That is until 2 months ago, they ‘updated the towers’ to give us 5g… except now nothing works. My phone shows 5g but I have zero bars and zero service. When I switch phone to lte, it’ll show full bars but has zero service. It often completely drops to SOS mode. It’s ridiculous. Several people in town have contacted Verizon and the FCC and Verizon’s official response has been, “we are aware that service is not optimal in this area, but we currently have no plans to fix it. If you are unhappy with our coverage, we encourage you to switch providers.” It’s infuriating. They’ve “updated” the town’s service from LTE to broken 5G/nothing at all and said “yeah what’re you gonna do about it, leave if you don’t like it” knowing that their tower is the only tower in the area.

  • fkn
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    1332 years ago

    My God is American internet awful

      • Nioxic
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        42 years ago

        I can ONLY get 1gbit, where i live. (Denmark)

        • eatham 🇭🇲
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          12 years ago

          I’m fine with 1080p tbh. Also If I really wanted to stream 4k I could use data (around 80mbps 4G)

      • Ser Salty
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        92 years ago

        I had 2Mbps (yes, bits, not bytes) until 2020. Then I moved out. Pretty sure that my parents house still only gets that same speed. And this is in fucking Germany, a pretty densely populated country.

        • Echo Dot
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          22 years ago

          I’m sure I’d get a faster speed than that in a piece of string.

          Honestly that sounds like the cable was damaged, was that really the actual target speed?

          • Ser Salty
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            22 years ago

            Yes, genuinely target speed. Germany is just incredibly behind when it comes to the internet.

        • @Mr_1077@monero.town
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          42 years ago

          As a Swede, I usually get well above 3 Mbit/s on 3G, and I have a 100/100 Mbit/s fiber that I often use to its full potential, and that’s with a VPN on. I really thought Germany had better infrastructure.

    • SeaJ
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      22 years ago

      I pay $65 for 1Gb symmetrical and no cap. But I have options for ISPs. My parents in rural Washington have the option of wireless internet at 10Mbps for $70/month or HughesNet satellite for some ungodly amount with worse speed. Starlink is still not available there.

    • @Psythik@monyet.cc
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      In rural areas, yes.

      In cities, Gigabit internet is abundant and only mildly expensive. Here in Phoenix I pay $60/mo for 1 Gbps down, 50 Mbps up with no bandwidth cap from Verizon. Not the best but far from “awful”.

      • fkn
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        I live in a major metropolitan city in the us and I pay close to $200 a month for gig down and less than 100up.

        • @Psythik@monyet.cc
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          You might not have to. Look into fixed 5G internet. So long as you have a view of a tower (which you should in a major metropolitan city; I’m in suburbia and still have 3 within view), speeds and latency are as good as a wired connection. I’d look into it.

          • fkn
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            I have to run my own cell tower because I live in a literal dead zone.

            Edit: I checked Verizon, 90 bucks for 50mbps with a 300gb data limits. Yay.

            • @Psythik@monyet.cc
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              22 years ago

              That sucks. Happens when there’s no competition in your area. Verizon is $60 for 1Gbps here, no data cap, because they have to compete with Cox. Greedy bastards.

      • @nowwhatnapster@lemmy.world
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        142 years ago

        But what if it costs $95/mo, there are no alternatives and the price has nearly doubled in 10 years from $55?

        I sure don’t feel that great.

          • @Psythik@monyet.cc
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            12 years ago

            You pay $4 more than I do for the same thing (with no bandwidth cap). If you’re not out in the sticks, internet is fine here.

              • @havokdj@lemmy.world
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                42 years ago

                You can get business gigabit for $90 a month where I live.

                Funny thing is that is the rural option, in town I have to go with Comcast and pay $160 a month for half a gigabit

                • @whofearsthenight@lemmy.world
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                  32 years ago

                  Scrolled too far down before a mention of Comcast. I was in charge of a handful of locations where we needed broadband. They were geographically diverse enough that we had to go with different options. Comcast was the most expensive, and by a lot. Like 30%, and the slowest in dl/ul by a large margin. Comcast was also the second worst one to deal with. The actual worst one was the faster, slightly less expensive Spectrum. They had by far the worst service. A couple of locations had small DSL companies that were a delight to deal with and reasonably priced, but slow as balls. And then one location had a municipal fiber option that was the cheapest, fastest, and easiest to deal with by far. Like, I swear to god I could call them and talk to a real network engineer that no joke actually knew more than I did. I don’t mean this to sound arrogant; I am not great with networking. I’m just saying compared to “yeah, I have that in bridge mode because I don’t need router capability I’m running my own” and being answered with something like “whoa I’m going to need to get a supervisor” vs them being like “hey can you open a terminal and…” Yes, yes I can open a terminal.

    • Flying Squid
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      72 years ago

      It can be, but I live in a semi-rural neighborhood outside of a town that doesn’t even have 100,000 people and I’m still getting 400/400 on fiber (and can get higher speeds if I want to pay for them).

    • @Mysterious_old_man@lemmy.world
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      122 years ago

      It depends. I grew up in the country and my parents still have to use phone hotspots for internet which works well for streaming but forget about any gaming. I live in a fairly major metropolitan city now and my internet is pretty good, although I’ve noticed my download speeds get throttled sometimes